Xela Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 hours ago, sidcow said: When I retire I would like to spend more time watching live entertainment. Theatre, Comedy, Music. Keep most evenings and weekends busy but it's going to cost shit loads obviously so pension pot will need to be big. I've got a decent pension pot at work for my age currently, and i've 24% going in every month. Yet the prediction for my retirement age (defaults to 65) is a pittance. I don't understand it. I'm assuming its based on current annuity rates, which are shit, but who buys an annuity now? It's all about drawdown isn't it? I've worked out my own projections based on 4% growth and it looks fine, even at 55 instead of 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Xela said: I've got a decent pension pot at work for my age currently, and i've 24% going in every month. Yet the prediction for my retirement age (defaults to 65) is a pittance. I don't understand it. I'm assuming its based on current annuity rates, which are shit, but who buys an annuity now? It's all about drawdown isn't it? I've worked out my own projections based on 4% growth and it looks fine, even at 55 instead of 65. You're right, they tend to be based on annuities, but the ones I've looked at have also been based on low to medium growth and medium to high inflation, and medium to high fees. They give a deliberately pessimistic view with the goal of not lulling people into a false sense of security - though I wonder how many people have been discouraged from saving at all as it seems to make such little difference looking at some of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, Xela said: I've got a decent pension pot at work for my age currently, and i've 24% going in every month. Yet the prediction for my retirement age (defaults to 65) is a pittance. I don't understand it. I'm assuming its based on current annuity rates, which are shit, but who buys an annuity now? It's all about drawdown isn't it? I've worked out my own projections based on 4% growth and it looks fine, even at 55 instead of 65. Same here. Every year for the last 5 or 6 years the estimated annual payout is getting less and less. It’s quite concerning, especially when my older colleagues have their final salary pensions to look forward to (66% of final salary for life). They closed that 6 months before I joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 The way I look at it is we are all part of the cog. If I can retire early then great, if not then so be it. I don’t particularly like or hate my job, but it keeps me very active and in shape, physically and mentally . Unless the wife won big on the lottery then early retirement is probably out of the window. Early retirement to me is finishing work at 60. My goal is to be able to go part time if I wanted at to, at 60. It is what it is though. Sometimes I get board when I’m off work too much , but that’s going off how I felt first lockdown where we couldn’t really do much. Money isn’t everything, mind. Health is wealth as they say and also being happy. Health/Happiness > money . If you’ve got all 3 then you ain’t doing too bad are you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 03/09/2021 at 08:31, Xela said: I'll probably buy a place by the sea, grow my beard again and try to write the perfect novel. Very Jim Morrison 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 02/09/2021 at 22:54, Brumerican said: I've been here before and always will be . That's the secret . This part of your post reminded me of this song. I am the world that hides the universal secret of all timeDestruction of the empty spaces is my one and only crime I've lived a thousand timesI found out what it means to be believedThe thoughts and imagesThe unborn child who never was conceived When little worlds collide I'm trapped inside my embryonic cellAnd flashing memoriesAre cast into the never ending well The name that scorns the face The child that never sees the cause of manThe deathly darkness thatBelies the face of those who never ranYou got belive it, I'm talking to youWell I know its hard for you to know the reason whyAnd I know you'll understand when it's time to dieDon't believe the life you have will be the only oneYou have to let your body sleep to let your soul live on I want you to listen, I'm trying to get throught Love has given life to you and now its your concernUnseen eye of inner life will make your soul returnStill I look but not to touch The seeds of life are sownCurtain of the future fallsThe secret stays unknown Just remember love is lifeAnd hate is living deathTreat your life for what its worth And live for every breathLooking back I've lived and learnedBut now I'm wondering Here I wait and only guessWhat this next life will bring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 20 hours ago, Davkaus said: You're right, they tend to be based on annuities, but the ones I've looked at have also been based on low to medium growth and medium to high inflation, and medium to high fees. They give a deliberately pessimistic view with the goal of not lulling people into a false sense of security - though I wonder how many people have been discouraged from saving at all as it seems to make such little difference looking at some of these. Its crazy. We have a pension 'modeller' program at work - you can plug in extra factors and growth rates etc. Basically, with a low growth rate your pension is £10k a year, medium growth is £30k a year and high growth its £75k a year. Waste of time! 20 hours ago, Genie said: Same here. Every year for the last 5 or 6 years the estimated annual payout is getting less and less. It’s quite concerning, especially when my older colleagues have their final salary pensions to look forward to (66% of final salary for life). They closed that 6 months before I joined. I missed out on the final salary scheme by a couple of years as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 31/08/2021 at 17:38, mottaloo said: Please forgive this lil bit of self indulgence but I got fully discharged from QE hospital this morning after 5 years of observation (scans, blood tests, x rays and consultations) after being diagnosed with testicular cancer in 2016.....at a cost of losing one crown jewel. No history of the big C in my family, so boys...take my advice and make sure you have a daily fumble down there and check your plums (who am I kidding !? ) I’m late to see this but just wanted to say nice one! And don’t worry about losing a plum, Hitler only had one and he did quite well for himself 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 The fact there's now a "January Transfer Window" thread. In September. I'm gonna cheer myself up immensely by reading that one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) wE ShOulD HaVe SigNEd mEsSi Edited September 4, 2021 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 02/09/2021 at 22:13, Xela said: I feel that. I'm working hard on the wheel so hopefully can come off it in 10 years and take early retirement. I retired for a year in my 30's , when i went to live in Hungary .. used to wake up go to language class , go for a run , afternoon power nap , confuse tourists by giving them directions in perfect English when they were lost and asked me for help , head to Margaret Island to watch girls sunbathing in G-strings , then get the tram and meet Mrs H from work and go out somewhere for the evening , maybe it was because I was in a foreign country but I never got bored when we had the covid lock down I was going stir crazy after about 2 days , all i did was stay up all night watching Netflix go to bed around 4 am and wake up 3 in the afternoon and go for a walk .. thankfully I was only lockdown for a month or so before i was back at work I always thought I'd retire the day I turned 55 , ... but i dunno , I like my job , my client would be kinda stuffed without me ( short term at least) and I hate the idea of letting them down and mentally I'm not sure I'd cope without the day to day challenges my job brings ... but ask me again when I hit 55 and I actually have access to my pension fund and maybe i'll give a different answer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Big Salad Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just got home from dropping my niece off for her freshman year of college at UNC-Wilmington. Bittersweet for me as on one hand I am very proud of her for going off to college and pursuing her dreams(Wants to be a marine biologist) but also sad as I will miss her tremendously as she is a very important part of my life. Of course, will call or text her is much as feasible, but also understand she needs room to grow and spread her wings if you will. I have faith that she will be just fine. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted September 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, Big Salad said: Just got home from dropping my niece off for her freshman year of college at UNC-Wilmington. Bittersweet for me as on one hand I am very proud of her for going off to college and pursuing her dreams(Wants to be a marine biologist) but also sad as I will miss her tremendously as she is a very important part of my life. Of course, will call or text her is much as feasible, but also understand she needs room to grow and spread her wings if you will. I have faith that she will be just fine. She will be fine and will have a great time whilst furthering her studies. She will also be in full knowledge that she has an awesome Uncle to call upon and will no doubt will miss you too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Big Salad said: Just got home from dropping my niece off for her freshman year of college at UNC-Wilmington. Bittersweet for me as on one hand I am very proud of her for going off to college and pursuing her dreams(Wants to be a marine biologist) but also sad as I will miss her tremendously as she is a very important part of my life. Of course, will call or text her is much as feasible, but also understand she needs room to grow and spread her wings if you will. I have faith that she will be just fine. You can call upon her knowledge of great fishes, such as a whale. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted September 5, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Seat68 said: You can call upon her knowledge of great fishes, such as a whale. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Everything about this makes me want to be Mongolian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Not often I do the lottery but decided to buy a lucky dip last night and got 3 numbers up generating a handsome £96. Little victories. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 5, 2021 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Not often I do the lottery but decided to buy a lucky dip last night and got 3 numbers up generating a handsome £96. Little victories. I got a fiver and a lucky dip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 6, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2021 6 hours ago, bickster said: I got a fiver and a lucky dip 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I had a rare go as it was a “must win” week so the prizes roll down. Won naff all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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