srsmithusa Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 On 12/26/2017 at 21:53, Eastie said: Best player in a villa shirt but that’s not saying a lot in this team 100% this. He slows down the attack too often, but still the best. Very sad, but very true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hippo Posted December 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2017 19 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: I don't want to hear next Saturday 'Jack has been our best player' only for us to lose 2 nil and ultimately offering little tangible to the team. Doesn't deliver for me. A typical grealish move - is to receive the ball, body swerve easily past the first opponent, the second opponents looks to have gotten the ball of grealish , but then Grealish recovers well and passes the ball backwards to villa player standing roughly where Grealish received the ball in the first place. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 19 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Not taking anything from Jack but I am yet to see a manager get the best out of this guy. He has played under how many managers already and is only 22/23? Can't be good or settling for anyones development. his best performances were under Sherwood who trusted him I dont feel any of his other manager has had faith in him since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: his best performances were under Sherwood who trusted him I dont feel any of his other manager has had faith in him since then Yes Sherwood was all for giving youth a chance atleast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: his best performances were under Sherwood who trusted him I dont feel any of his other manager has had faith in him since then I’m not disagreeing. Im just not sure I understand what this means. In what tangible way did Sherwood “trust” Jack that others have not? If Bruce is to be believed, Bruce built this whole side around Jack. Is that not “trust.” Not looking for a dig or a disagreement, just truly don’t understand what the idea of “trusting Jack” really even means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: I’m not disagreeing. Im just not sure I understand what this means. In what tangible way did Sherwood “trust” Jack that others have not? If Bruce is to be believed, Bruce built this whole side around Jack. Is that not “trust.” Not looking for a dig or a disagreement, just truly don’t understand what the idea of “trusting Jack” really even means. well he was 18/19 Sherwood gave him a starting role in big relegation battle and in an FA Cup semi final when Lambert previously didnt rate him. Since then through his own fault as well other managers dont seem to have that faith in him If all our players are fit I dont think Bruce would start Jack no matter what he says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 So, willingly starting him and playing him, is what you mean by trusting him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: I’m not disagreeing. Im just not sure I understand what this means. In what tangible way did Sherwood “trust” Jack that others have not? If Bruce is to be believed, Bruce built this whole side around Jack. Is that not “trust.” Not looking for a dig or a disagreement, just truly don’t understand what the idea of “trusting Jack” really even means. He told him a secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 20 minutes ago, Zatman said: well he was 18/19 Sherwood gave him a starting role in big relegation battle and in an FA Cup semi final when Lambert previously didnt rate him. Since then through his own fault as well other managers dont seem to have that faith in him If all our players are fit I dont think Bruce would start Jack no matter what he says I think Lambert did rate him, he was just too young to have a pivotal role when he was manager hence why he was loaned out to Notts County. I think Bruce rates him very highly, he was given the no.10 shirt for a start and he's always bigging him up in interviews. I think even when McLeish was manager, he rated him, Grealish was in the squad at the age of 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 At the end of the day he needs a long run in the team and if he fails to deliver at the end of the season on goals and assists then perhaps he is not as good as people hoped he would be. He has been in some shocking Villa sides plus injuries and manager changes have not helped. But he has to start to deliver more regularly other than the odd bit of skill. Tomorrow would be nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: At the end of the day he needs a long run in the team and if he fails to deliver at the end of the season on goals and assists then perhaps he is not as good as people hoped he would be. He has been in some shocking Villa sides plus injuries and manager changes have not helped. But he has to start to deliver more regularly other than the odd bit of skill. Tomorrow would be nice! At the moment he is the only one that resembles a footballer......I have had my issues with Jack and still have to a degree. He seems to have kicked that dropping to the floor on challenges ,like a child ditches the dummy, when its fed up....which is good to see. He is the only one who can embrace the ball and go past people with it.He looks like a player, pity no one seems to be able to make intelligent runs to capitalise on his play, then again silly me they would need half a dozen touches to gain control of it. He has to play, somewhere he is the only guile we have, other than perhaps Albert. Edited December 30, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 17 hours ago, srsmithusa said: If Bruce is to be believed, Bruce built this whole side around Jack. Is that not “trust.” Nope. It's called bullshit. The only thing he has built round Jack, and the whole club for that matter is false hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Another good performance from Jack- he probably isn't even match sharp yet after his lengthy injury. Can't wait to see him if he can get a run of games under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) We Looked far better when he came on - beginning to play well on a regular basis Edited December 30, 2017 by Eastie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 No idea why he was dropped 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He was the best attacking player on the pitch again today. I haven't a clue why he was dropped as he has been our best player now for the last handful of games. I think Bruce got a little lucky today with Onomah getting injured as it allowed Jack to come on and going forward we looked much better as he does link the midfield to the wide players, put himself about the pitch and look to make things happen. He should be one of the first names on the team sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He was probably being rested tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carewjust4u Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 You cannot underestimate how important his hold-up play is, he allows us to move up the pitch. I know he has his critics for being "slow on the ball" or "not direct enough".Compare him to Adomah or a Green, both great players who are likely to get you the assist or the ...but Jack allows the entire team to move up the pitch and get players into attacking positions. All our promising attacking play that isn't route-one involves Jack. I hope he was dropped for rest-purposes, but please Bruce...first name on the sheet please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 If having a slow and ponderous playmaker is a positive because it allows the rest of the team to amble forward, it is just another indication of how wrong the team is set up. I agree to a point with what you are saying, but I don't think it is really a solution to the problem. I'm still unconvinced by Grealish, but I'm not writing him off yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Bruce doesn't deserve him. How could he drop him for Onomah of all people? Hopefully we can shift Steve on before Grealish is wanted in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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