srsmithusa Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'll add my voice to this cycle of rehashing previously posted comments and opinions. Jack has bags of potential. (I'm actually not sure anyone is disputing that.) My concern is that he looks silky smooth but rarely drives the ball into dangerous places. Rarely sees and hits that incisive ball that opens up the defense. Of all the things he can do, the one I'm not seeing, is the ability to unlock a defense with anything resembling the frequency his apparent skill should permit. Some seasoned head (RDM? Clarke? Petrov?) needs to remind him that the game is not about looking classy, it's about getting the ball into the other team's net, or unlocking the defense for a teammate to do the same. Gliding past 11 opponents to place a back pass into the midfield is only gaining admirers. Not wins. His goal and assist ratios per minute, I'm quite sure, support my evaluation. But, if you've read this for long, you've hear my opinion on Jack before, so.... carry on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: I'll add my voice to this cycle of rehashing previously posted comments and opinions. Jack has bags of potential. (I'm actually not sure anyone is disputing that.) My concern is that he looks silky smooth but rarely drives the ball into dangerous places. Rarely sees and hits that incisive ball that opens up the defense. Of all the things he can do, the one I'm not seeing, is the ability to unlock a defense with anything resembling the frequency his apparent skill should permit. Some seasoned head (RDM? Clarke? Petrov?) needs to remind him that the game is not about looking classy, it's about getting the ball into the other team's net, or unlocking the defense for a teammate to do the same. Gliding past 11 opponents to place a back pass into the midfield is only gaining admirers. Not wins. His goal and assist ratios per minute, I'm quite sure, support my evaluation. But, if you've read this for long, you've hear my opinion on Jack before, so.... carry on. I agree with this. I don't think he needs "reminding" that football is about scoring goals, I'm sure he knows that. He just needs some decent coaching in order to unlock that potential. Somebody keeps likening him to Lee Hendrie. I agree that he has the same level of natural talent, perhaps more so. Fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 8 hours ago, Richard said: He has had one decent game for us when it looked like he could be a top player. He is Lee Hendrie mark 2 Lee Hendrie had a great career for us in the top flight. Over 300 games.and many to a good standard. I like Jack and if he has a career like Hendrie then I don't think I'll complain too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 A definite starter for me. Ability is there but he's not an 'impact' player off the bench. He'll be better settled in the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2016 6 hours ago, srsmithusa said: I'll add my voice to this cycle of rehashing previously posted comments and opinions. Jack has bags of potential. (I'm actually not sure anyone is disputing that.) My concern is that he looks silky smooth but rarely drives the ball into dangerous places. Rarely sees and hits that incisive ball that opens up the defense. Of all the things he can do, the one I'm not seeing, is the ability to unlock a defense with anything resembling the frequency his apparent skill should permit. Some seasoned head (RDM? Clarke? Petrov?) needs to remind him that the game is not about looking classy, it's about getting the ball into the other team's net, or unlocking the defense for a teammate to do the same. Gliding past 11 opponents to place a back pass into the midfield is only gaining admirers. Not wins. His goal and assist ratios per minute, I'm quite sure, support my evaluation. But, if you've read this for long, you've hear my opinion on Jack before, so.... carry on. Jacks not the only player, most of our players don't want the ball in the dangerous areas of the pitch, they appear to be scared to lose possession to the extent they look for a simple pass rather than a decisive one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2016 On 8.8.2016 at 20:27, One For The Road said: Totally agree. I'm not even sure he has a game to "up". He had a few good moments under Sherwood, Liverpool at Wembley being the main one, but other than that I think he is terribly overrated. If that stat of 19 straight losses is correct then that's incredible. He offers very little protection at the back, as the 4-0 defeat at Everton showed, and doesn't do a great deal going forward. Unfortunately, I agree with you. I don't see much in Jack. He is young, but... I admit that he was great at Wembley, like you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Not too hard to disagree with One For The Road. I do think he looks dangerous though you can see it when he's on the ball its just waiting for him to start finding that pass that evades him all too often and not holding onto the ball too much. I know it's another level down again but he found that touch at Notts County, he just needs a run of games in my opinion. Hope he finds his killer instincts though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubliner Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Tonight against Luton is the perfect game to throw him into. If he plays well he can then take that into two winnable games against Rotherham and Huddersfield and all of a sudden could start looking like a player again. I don't care much for the 19 straight losses stat as he only played 15/20 mins at most in a good few of those games and was playing in the worst Villa side in history. Now is the time to shine though and I'm backing him to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Come on Jack, this is your chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Should be making an impact on games like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Merson is right, wasted out wide "done nothing" apart from hit the post with an effort the keeper was nowhere near... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Another who's agrees with Merse, need to get him in 10 position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Nice to see his fine run continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 went missing when the going got tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midian Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Awful tonight forgot his was playing halfway through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 What are we hoping for in that position? He's not fast enough to blitz passed a fb and he's not going to whip balls in with his left foot. He showed glimpes but not good enough and confidence still looks broken from last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I wouldn't criticise him too much on tonights display. As Merse said he'll look good if the team is on top but when you have to work hard and dig in he's a passenger. Looks like an arsenal player. All nice little passes but no bottle or passion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 He'll get afforded way more time than everyone else in our squad, and I hope he turns it round. But this really wasn't great, yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 A chance to pull the strings tonight but instead disappeared and predictably cut inside and then passed backwards every time he got the ball - he's easy to defend against and isn't influencing the matches so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Slows thongs down to much. No better than Vertiut currently but seems to get cut a lot of slack because he came through our academy and has had one good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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