mikeyp102 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: He would have done the exact same for England. His production has directly increased due to the improved quality of the players around him. Yes the players around him being better, show his qualities better. I’m not disputing that. But surely you can see how he has improved physically this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Anyone got a clip of his or Kane’s interviews post match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brumstopdogs Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Anyone got a clip of his or Kane’s interviews post match? 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: He's the new Leeds United. on a serious point i have found myself questioning this...as so many people on social media are still saying overrated, dives too much etc and wonder if this is how leeds fans feel when they get bigged up left right and centre but in jack's case, the stats back it up. taking subjectivity out of the equation, statistially he was the england's best player tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Gentlemen we have just witnessed the birth of a superstar I've had this thought at about 12 different times with Grealish, I think each time was actually more akin to stages in the life cycle of an actual star. But they are happening faster and faster. His performances in the 10 win run, dragging us to safety, destroying Liverpool, first England start MOTM, Destroying Arsenal, first competitive England start MOTM. He's gone through nebula, protostar, star, red giant. Everyone is raving about him. He'll go full supernova in the Euros I think. Edited November 15, 2020 by YouUnastanFren 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will87 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 First 60 minutes thought he was having a good if unspectacular game, but that final 30 my goodness, was like watching Zidane, class touch after class touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Lol only just motm 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, darrenm said: Lol only just motm How many Leeds and Blues fans must have voted on that to drag his rating down to a 7.38?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 If sancho is going for 110m then grealish is worth 150m 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, sidcow said: Totally agree. So many times I was expecting the kind of forward passes (often to Jack) which I would see a Villa player make, but instead the player with the ball just layed it back or turned the other way. At times it was any option other than pass forwards. Also a reluctance to take anyone on...except for Jack of course. The thing is whilst we don't have Luiz and mcginn we have players who are similar enough to actually give us that and they offer other things as well. Ward-prowse good DM, passer, set-piece taker and actually pretty good with the ball at his feet, mount, maddison etc. We have real quality and Southgate refuses to use it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJ_Villain Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: If sancho is going for 110m then grealish is worth 150m He is a once-in-a-lifetime player... For him to come through our youth system and make it all the way up to team captain and now bossing it whenever he plays for England... I don't think we will see another player quite like him play for Villa ever again... I have been a Villa fan since the early/mid 90s... and I dont remember ever seeing an attacking player anywhere near as good as him... and for us to have him from the year dot as well... He is just too good... and worth way more than a poxy £150m... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: No I disagree, Jack is even better this season. He ran games for us. But now he is more a physical specimen. He seems a lot quicker this season. Agree totally. It’s like the year Bale just stepped up physically and started dominating people. Jack’s always done that with skill, now it’s skill and power. Ronaldo went through the same transition but I think the Bale comparison is a better one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I think tonight he has moved onto another level in the eyes of non Villa fans. The performance tonight was no different from the performances he showed us for the last 3 years.But for him to do it against supposedly the number 1 team in the world just shows how far he can go. If anything I think international football might suit him more than than the premier league.The free kicks he wins in danger areas could be crucial and I don’t think international teams can assign 2 or 3 players to close him down. His problem is the lack of creativity in midfield .How often did Henderson or Rice have the ball and just pass it sideways or back to the defence.Jack needs someone in Midfield to give him the ball quickly and Jack needs a forward with great pace (Sterling). Only then will England be as good Villa at the moment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 If only he could take a free kick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Such is Jack's ability and style its never really mattered the level of opponent he's up against. What is making a difference now is he's so much stronger and quicker and has the opposition scared before he's kicked a ball. That reputation is now growing exponentially. The next level for him is honing these skills and trying to be a bit more deadly in and around the box. Obviously he's not a striker so that's easier said than done but ramping up the goals really would put him into the highest echelons of football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: It isn't just about pace though. Villa don't have much pace but so far we have been one of the best counter attacking sides in the league this season because Luiz, McGinn and barkley can all run with the ball and pick out a runner. None of the midfielders England played today can do that which either forces you to bypass them completely like what happened for Belgiums first or you play it through them and you just dither around in your half. Yes I do agree pace isn't the only issue. I was frustrated with "the dithering" as you put it and kept on shouting at the telly for them to move the ball quicker... and forwards preferably! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted November 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2020 59 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: If sancho is going for 110m then grealish is worth 150m Higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, birdman said: Such is Jack's ability and style its never really mattered the level of opponent he's up against. What is making a difference now is he's so much stronger and quicker and has the opposition scared before he's kicked a ball. That reputation is now growing exponentially. The next level for him is honing these skills and trying to be a bit more deadly in and around the box. Obviously he's not a striker so that's easier said than done but ramping up the goals really would put him into the highest echelons of football. Imagine if he was the level he is now but knocking in 15 goals per season... he’s not a striker but he is more and more developing into a forward rather than a midfielder... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Totally agree. So many times I was expecting the kind of forward passes (often to Jack) which I would see a Villa player make, but instead the player with the ball just layed it back or turned the other way. At times it was any option other than pass forwards. Also a reluctance to take anyone on...except for Jack of course. I thought the centre midfield was poor, Harry winks improved it a bit.....but not good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, birdman said: Yes I do agree pace isn't the only issue. I was frustrated with "the dithering" as you put it and kept on shouting at the telly for them to move the ball quicker... and forwards preferably! everything bar Jack and Kane was laboured.....Saka improved things a bit as did Winks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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