Spoony Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 8 hours ago, tinker said: It's difficult to judge any player while we are playing like we are. That’s how I see it really. He might shine under a new manager. He’s been shite but show me one player who hasn’t other than Chambers and Martinez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Bazmonkey said: Like most of the players...lack of movement...options....always receiving the ball.with back towards goal...kills him. The one time he did go round someone he did trip up which happens. I sat fours rows from front yesterday and he played on left so I saw him quite close....he looked frustrated there was no options and when he did try something it either didn't pay off or the receiving player messed up. Not his best day but needs better intelligent players around him This is it really. How anyone can expect anything from him is beyond me. He shouldn’t be starting right now but equally I don’t think we should write him off until a proper manager has a go with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 That's 3 games now..Leeds last season and the last two at home where he's just broke down mid way through the 2nd half in front of the holte and had to come off. At the time the Leeds one you could put down to getting match fit again but it's clear from watching him just in general play that he's physically declined so much and can't do what he used to. He just never looks right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Having listened to the presser it seems he was taken off with cramp so should be fine the midweek. You really have to question why a 29 year old after a full pre season is physically completely shot after 65 minutes of the 4th game of the season which is typically when players are really getting into peak condition. Can't help but think we've signed a bit of a dud here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 hours ago, weedman said: Having listened to the presser it seems he was taken off with cramp so should be fine the midweek. You really have to question why a 29 year old after a full pre season is physically completely shot after 65 minutes of the 4th game of the season which is typically when players are really getting into peak condition. Can't help but think we've signed a bit of a dud here We have. Bet Barca couldn't believe their luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tom13 said: We have. Bet Barca couldn't believe their luck. Pretty sure we were the only interested party hence the low fee. They probably would have took another loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: Pretty sure we were the only interested party hence the low fee. They probably would have took another loan According to a fair few on here, he was an absolute bargain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Tom13 said: According to a fair few on here, he was an absolute bargain. Tbf he looked like a bargain, his performances dropped off last season but that's easy to dismiss due to fitness reasons as he'd barely played before coming here, but now several months later his fitness hasn't improved it seems which is a worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, weedman said: Tbf he looked like a bargain, his performances dropped off last season but that's easy to dismiss due to fitness reasons as he'd barely played before coming here, but now several months later his fitness hasn't improved it seems which is a worry We will have to hope that who ever our next manager is that he finds a way to use Coutinho more effectively 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 12 hours ago, weedman said: Having listened to the presser it seems he was taken off with cramp so should be fine the midweek. You really have to question why a 29 year old after a full pre season is physically completely shot after 65 minutes of the 4th game of the season which is typically when players are really getting into peak condition. Can't help but think we've signed a bit of a dud here He's gone off with a knock or cramp several times since he's been here only to be fine the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: He's gone off with a knock or cramp several times since he's been here only to be fine the next game. If he was called El Ghazi or Targett he'd be called a weak player who didn't want to fight for the club. Edited August 31, 2022 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 He was much better in the original 4-3-2-1 formation, which also incidentally allowed Buendia to play. Still a hideously narrow formation but much better than the current diamond nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAGONZ_RULE Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 10 hours ago, Tom13 said: We have. Bet Barca couldn't believe their luck. I'm not sure they would describe as luck signing a bloke for 140m that they sold a couple of years later for 20m, in the meantime causing them to go bankrupt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 15 hours ago, weedman said: Having listened to the presser it seems he was taken off with cramp so should be fine the midweek. You really have to question why a 29 year old after a full pre season is physically completely shot after 65 minutes of the 4th game of the season which is typically when players are really getting into peak condition. Can't help but think we've signed a bit of a dud here Surprised, looked like he pulled a muscle when kicking the ball. Think he'll be on the bench although perhaps Arsenal game with more space will suit him, he did play well at Man. City last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: Surprised, looked like he pulled a muscle when kicking the ball. Think he'll be on the bench although perhaps Arsenal game with more space will suit him, he did play well at Man. City last season. Looked like he never wanted to be out their in the first place tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, DRAGONZ_RULE said: I'm not sure they would describe as luck signing a bloke for 140m that they sold a couple of years later for 20m, in the meantime causing them to go bankrupt! Luck that they'd found someone to take those huge wages off their books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubliner Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Not giving up on Coutinho yet. No chance. If we find the right system and start playing a bit of decent football we'll hopefully see the best of him again. When on form he's our best player by a long way. In the current system though he's useless. Definitely needs to be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 We need more midfielders around him, not more strikers. Drop one of Ings/Watkins (honestly couldn't care less who, they're very similar in terms of output) and put in Buendia WITH him and probably J Ramsey to do the running. We've GOT to have 3-5 midfielders and one striker IF we want to get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, dubliner said: In the current system though he's useless. Definitely needs to be dropped. In the current ( SG system ) all the players are useless.How the #@%& did he go a season unbeaten in the SPL ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: In the current ( SG system ) all the players are useless.How the #@%& did he go a season unbeaten in the SPL ? Most of the other managers are equally as useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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