Steven Gerrard

[mrchnry]

Save me going back pages to find out please. ....

Seeing comments about players turning on SG on social media, who? 

Also SG slating players in interviews, what's he said? 

[YLN]

Aston Villa have won two of their last twelve premier league games. Both games were against teams that are no longer in the premier league. 

Aston Villa's win against Leicester at the start of December 2021 is the last time they beat a team that finished higher than 15th in last year's premier league table.

Steven Gerrard is a fraud and should never have gotten the job.

[Aston_Villan4]

12 minutes ago, mrchnry said:

Save me going back pages to find out please. ....

Seeing comments about players turning on SG on social media, who? 

Also SG slating players in interviews, what's he said? 

Don’t know about players turning on him but I believe this is what you’re referring to about the interview thing. Granted, I haven’t watched any other interviews he may have done.

 

[YLN]

What is he talking about lack of quality? What does that mean? Is he going in tomorrow to review the videos with the team, pointing at the television and saying, 'do more quality. have more quality things that you do. in both boxes. More quality here and here'

Does he want to buy in more quality? Did Bournemouth have more quality than we did? Do Bournemouth have better quality players? Is that what he's saying? 

[Jas10]

3 minutes ago, YLN said:

What is he talking about lack of quality? What does that mean? Is he going in tomorrow to review the videos with the team, pointing at the television and saying, 'do more quality. have more quality things that you do. in both boxes. More quality here and here'

Does he want to buy in more quality? Did Bournemouth have more quality than we did? Do Bournemouth have better quality players? Is that what he's saying? 

Talking shit like he usually does, spoofer.

It’s incredible the amount of resources and leeway he has been given despite being such a poor and inexperienced manager who is seemingly incapable of coaching the players at his disposal (needing to lean on a huge backroom team who are almost as useless and inept) and just wants to spend money all the time. As if that’s a/only solution…

He just comes across as a speaker or “face” who likes to talk too much but can’t actually back that up with positive action. 

He’s just riding on his name and reputation as a player. It means relatively nothing when it comes to management.

We’ve been crap for the vast majority of his tenure, no positive signs or ideas, I’m sick of him. His record is abysmal.

I put up with the dross and didn’t criticise him much last season in the hope that we would be ready and firing for this one after a full preseason and more transfer activity but there is nothing to show for it and no signs of improvement, identity, playing style, cohesion and whatever else is required to give fans some optimism and encouragement for the team they support… what is the plan?

He has really pissed me off and many others today. What the hell have we even been working on? His ego prevents him from admitting his own faults…

We have a lot of quality (and expenditure) in this squad and were well and truly shown up and embarrassed by Bournemouth. This was worse than the Watford defeat…

FFS we were just launching aimless balls into the box today without any rhyme or reason… it was embarrassing and made no sense. We’re not even utilising the talent we have or even choosing the right players to play together… can’t even pass and keep the f***ing football!

He is failing to even get anywhere near the best out of the players at his disposal… a manager’s job is not just to spend money and slate his players, all he does is deflect blame…

[QldVilla]

I didn't think Smith deserved the sack and wasn't a fan of Gerrard's appointment, but knew it would take him 12 months to make it his team, that's still November.

However, i expected us to win 3/4-0 yesterday, that was simply not good enough.

The only thing I can put my finger on is a physical/mental hang over from the trip to Australia, but that is tenuous in a professional sporting organization.

If we don't batter Everton next week, Gerrard needs to be replaced, no excuses. I expect a huge reaction.

[Sulberto21]

I think the weak mentality runs deeper than just the manager/coaching staff. The Club itself is weak. 

[nepal_villan]

1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said:

I think the weak mentality runs deeper than just the manager/coaching staff. The Club itself is weak. 

Not sure what you mean here.  Our facilities, stadium, fan base, ownership, etc. are all top class. Whatever is wrong with the management and/or squad is isolated and surely can be remedied.

[Villa87]

I’m still livid. So many things fallen into place with owners and, at least in theory, calibre of player to have a very poor, divisive manager. When I listen to him talk tactics and style it is clear that he cannot properly articulate it. Compare to the way Deano, a proper coach, spoke about the game. 

[Tomaszk]

5 hours ago, TRO said:

In that respect, sadly I see no difference, since he came in, I am still waiting to see that....and the wait is breeding doubt.

Been trying to tell you this for a while. You've been saying Gerrard will succeed with no evidence.

5 hours ago, TRO said:

SG has set himself up, to be hugely doubted after that debacle.....I didn't think we could stoop that low.

Yes he has.

He's dug a right horrible hole for himself.

So much positivity about the mythical pre-season he needed. "The players have all bought in...they're doing exactly what we tell them".

He can't turn round now and say players aren't good enough.

Hope it's not just his fine media aura at work. In fact we know it's not.

Every fan with half a clue could see the errors he was making. Basic, basic, basic. Dog & Duck stuff.

Ineffective formation. Everyone in the middle of the pitch will never work in the PL. Don't leave your best player out the team. McGinn is currently our 4th choice centre mid at absolute best, you could probably stick Kamara or Aaron Ramsey there and they'd be better...he makes him captain!

No excuses. Pressure on. I'd sack him if we lose to Everton, no doubt. Would have sacked him in the summer. No evidence to suggest he's anything more than a good talker. 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Tomaszk

[Delphinho123]

5 minutes ago, Tomaszk said:

Been trying to tell you this for a while. You've been saying Gerrard will succeed with no evidence.

Yes he has.

He's dug a right horrible hole for himself.

So much positivity about the mythical pre-season he needed. "The players have all bought in...they're doing exactly what we tell them".

He can't turn round now and say players aren't good enough.

Hope it's not just his fine media aura at work. In fact we know it's not.

Every fan with half a clue could see the errors he was making. Basic, basic, basic. Dog & Duck stuff.

Ineffective formation. Everyone in the middle of the pitch will never work in the PL. Don't leave your best player out the team. McGinn is currently our 4th choice centre mid at absolute best, you could probably stick Kamara or Aaron Ramsey there and they'd be better...he makes him captain!

No excuses. Pressure on. I'd sack him if we lose to Everton, no doubt. Would have sacked him in the summer. No evidence to suggest he's anything more than a good talker. 

If he loses against Everton, he’ll have lost the fans. 

If he has any sense, he’ll bring Mings back, bench McGinn and start Buendia.

He’ll do none of these things. 

[Tomaszk]

Just now, Delphinho123 said:

If he loses against Everton, he’ll have lost the fans. 

If he has any sense, he’ll bring Mings back, bench McGinn and start Buendia.

He’ll do none of these things. 

Not too fussed about Mings as a player myself. I do think he'll be quite bad having around after the way Gerrard has attacked him. He won't be helping the team to prepare.

[Delphinho123]

4 minutes ago, Tomaszk said:

Not too fussed about Mings as a player myself. I do think he'll be quite bad having around after the way Gerrard has attacked him. He won't be helping the team to prepare.

On form, Chambers probably deserved to start but I still think Mings has attributes we lack both at the back and as a team in general. The way the whole thing has been handled has been absolutely shambolic.

McGinn is a bigger problem for Gerrard though now. He has to be dropped. Sanson, Luiz, Ramsey and Kamara are all ahead of him for me. Certainly from what I’ve seen on the whole over the last 12 months anyway.

Its a mess. Everton is a huge game. Lose that and all of a sudden, you’ve lost to two relegation candidates and you start to wonder where the next win is coming from…

I think he’ll be gone before the World Cup. 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Delphinho123

[TheMightyVillans]

Feels like the beginning of the end for him.

The only big decision I feel he has handled well was chukwuemeka.

He has always been good with his words too but that seems to be cracking now.

[delboy54]

My missus summed it up by saying.... "Gerrard is out of his depth" and she knows nothing about footy !

If she can see that Gerrard is the wrong person for the job, you can bet our owners can as well

[Keyblade]

1 hour ago, Villa87 said:

I’m still livid. So many things fallen into place with owners and, at least in theory, calibre of player to have a very poor, divisive manager. When I listen to him talk tactics and style it is clear that he cannot properly articulate it. Compare to the way Deano, a proper coach, spoke about the game. 

That's a good point. He speaks about the game like one of those boring passion merchant pundits on TV. Maybe it's the questions being equally dull but he never gets into things into any more detail than vague clichés. He talks a lot about getting them to "play how we want" but never actually goes into what that actually entails. 

[rodders0223]

10 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

That's a good point. He speaks about the game like one of those boring passion merchant pundits on TV. Maybe it's the questions being equally dull but he never gets into things into any more detail than vague clichés. He talks a lot about getting them to "play how we want" but never actually goes into what that actually entails. 

He doesn't even know. That's why he's hired 2 actual head coaches/managers to do it.

[Stevo985]

35 minutes ago, TheMightyVillans said:

He has always been good with his words too but that seems to be cracking now.

This always happens. Whenever we get a new manager everyone jizzes over every interview they give saying how well they speak etc. then when it’s not going well everyone says he’s talking shit. 

I think interviews and what the manager says means very little. We shape their words based on our opinion anyway

[burchy]

Unfortunately, I think the writing is on the wall for him and I think he knows it. 

It’s a shame really as I wanted him to do well here. Great players don’t always make great managers though.

He has an air of arrogance about him, a swagger, earned as a player, not as a manager. 

I too think he’ll be gone before the WC.

[MWARLEY2]

Starting a man who barely knows english  making his prem debut  alongside a player who has just returned from an injury and is the quietest of our centrebacks in a premier league game against two 6'4 strikers,.

while leaving our 6'5 defender, warrior and talker on the bench should be held up as one of the most ridiculous decisions ever made by an Aston Villa manager in the last 20 years