Delphinho123 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Mad, I know, but I’m relaxed on the Watkins situation. I really like him, and think he offers a lot, but I’d also be interested to see how good we could be with somebody with a different skillset to his up top. You have to remember that he’s not expected to run the channels and chase hopeless long balls as much under Emery (probably his best attribute) so a striker who does his best work centrally and is more technical could improve us. Ultimately, we can improve on every single player in the team within reason, Martinez, Kamara and Torres aside. Watkins is fairly low down on the priority list in terms of a replacement. It’s worth noting his fitness record is phenomenal. As far as being an athlete goes, I can’t remember one quite like Ollie at the club before. He’s fairly fast, strong and is never injured. The management team will really admire him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I wonder if our 3 new signings will encourage Ollie to sign a new contract. All 3 have abilities that will improve the number and quality of chances that he will get each match. If he stays fit, he really will have the chance to get 20 plus league goals this season. That will put him right in the mix for the next Euros even with Spudgate in charge. Hopefully this will get sorted before too long. He has his weaknesses Ollie but he is still really great for where we are right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I wonder if our 3 new signings will encourage Ollie to sign a new contract. All 3 have abilities that will improve the number and quality of chances that he will get each match. If he stays fit, he really will have the chance to get 20 plus league goals this season. That will put him right in the mix for the next Euros even with Spudgate in charge. Hopefully this will get sorted before too long. He has his weaknesses Ollie but he is still really great for where we are right now. Said before, these 3 new signings have probably all signed above average wage contracts So yes they probably have convinced him to sign a new deal! Watkins has a very nice £100k a week deal on the table, Diaby, tielemans and torres all come in on £120k a week, Watkins agent is licking his lips It'll be sorted but if he's got any sense he waits for the big signings and then asks to be in their ball park as he's a key player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Should be targeting 20+ goals in all competitions the closer he gets to Gabby’s record the better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Hopefully we have a contract announcement soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 13 hours ago, M_Afro said: I wonder if our 3 new signings will encourage Ollie to sign a new contract. All 3 have abilities that will improve the number and quality of chances that he will get each match. If he stays fit, he really will have the chance to get 20 plus league goals this season. That will put him right in the mix for the next Euros even with Spudgate in charge. Hopefully this will get sorted before too long. He has his weaknesses Ollie but he is still really great for where we are right now. These 3 new signings all feature attributes that Ollie has so we won't feel his loss when he leaves. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) Linked with Chelsea today - can’t see it, but if they do offer £100m I’d sell for that money and trust Unai and Monchi to replace well. I am not condoning and wanting him sold, but for £100m it would be hard to resist! Not sure what the £100m plus Marcus Rashford is about poorly written headline as it’s just a quote from Collymore in the article stating United would need to pay £100m plus Rashford Edited July 22, 2023 by villan-scott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 He's holding out for that Digne salary. And why shouldn't he. Two years left is it? I wonder if we'll bow to demands after the window. No wonder there are striker rumours, better to address now than have Watkins with a year left and minimal alternatives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Not sure can cope with giving Ollie 600k pw and those enourmous appearance bonuses Digne gets. Let's be realistic. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Every time one of our team is at the top of this forum it's due to some utter gashdribble story in the "know-****-all" media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I’d imagine Watkins is waiting to see who else comes in during the transfer window before committing to signing a new deal. Think it’s been reported Tielemans is the highest earner and I’d imagine Torres and Diaby will be on fairly high wages. With his form under Emery, he is quite rightly making sure he is going going be amongst the highest earners at the club and that might just mean waiting for the window to be shut first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, villan-scott said: Linked with Chelsea today - can’t see it, but if they do offer £100m I’d sell for that money and trust Unai and Monchi to replace well. I am not condoning and wanting him sold, but for £100m it would be hard to resist! Not sure what the £100m plus Marcus Rashford is about poorly written headline as it’s just a quote from Collymore in the article stating United would need to pay £100m plus Rashford I see the Express online has the same story (link below). Archie Griggs writes that "no concrete approaches have been made by the Blues as things stand" and adds that Watkins "is said to have a market value of just £35million, which could represent a bargain for Chelsea if they manage to agree a deal at that price in the near future." £35m! what a joke, that would indeed be a bargain. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1793934/Chelsea-Ollie-Watkins-Man-Utd-Marcus-Rashford-Premier-League-transfer-news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 2 hours ago, villan-scott said: Linked with Chelsea today - can’t see it, but if they do offer £100m I’d sell for that money and trust Unai and Monchi to replace well. I am not condoning and wanting him sold, but for £100m it would be hard to resist! Not sure what the £100m plus Marcus Rashford is about poorly written headline as it’s just a quote from Collymore in the article stating United would need to pay £100m plus Rashford You say that, but we should also ask the question why Pochettino and Chelsea would want him for 100 mill? It would mean we already have a phenomenal, and league proven asset we can use. The increase in quality around him should, will see him thrive even further. We'd essentially be strengthening a rival as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, John said: I see the Express online has the same story (link below). Archie Griggs writes that "no concrete approaches have been made by the Blues as things stand" and adds that Watkins "is said to have a market value of just £35million, which could represent a bargain for Chelsea if they manage to agree a deal at that price in the near future." £35m! what a joke, that would indeed be a bargain. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1793934/Chelsea-Ollie-Watkins-Man-Utd-Marcus-Rashford-Premier-League-transfer-news Ah yes we've developed him for 3 seasons into a good premier league striker just to sell him for basically what we paid for him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Selling Ollie would damage Emery's plans considerably. It's not going to happen .... in my opinion of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 The contrast between Villa and Chelsea is remarkable: we’re clearly building something and on an upward trajectory. Poch or no Poch, they’re a team in decline run by a man (Boehly) who doesn’t have any idea about football. The place is a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: The contrast between Villa and Chelsea is remarkable: we’re clearly building something and on an upward trajectory. Poch or no Poch, they’re a team in decline run by a man (Boehly) who doesn’t have any idea about football. The place is a mess. I said this a few weeks back in the Martinez thread, but the biggest threat we face is the wages that these clubs pay. The Digne thread sees us talk about his massive income, but last season both Chelsea and Liverpool had an entire team of players each on more than him. For Liverpool, practically half of their 25 man squad earned more than our highest earner. Add to that the additional exposure lands personal endorsements around the world plus automatic call ups to national teams. Chelsea have 40 million people following their Instagram compared to our 3 million. This is not a slight on Villa, but there are plenty of non-footballing reasons why an agent and player would be tempted. Thankfully, we are a very exciting project with a truly wonderful manager and set of owners. If we can have another successful season, these rumours will become fewer and far between. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: You say that, but we should also ask the question why Pochettino and Chelsea would want him for 100 mill? It would mean we already have a phenomenal, and league proven asset we can use. The increase in quality around him should, will see him thrive even further. We'd essentially be strengthening a rival as well. Yeah, the story is complete bullshit anyway. But if there were even a shred of truth to it… it does demonstrate how much of a commodity a decent and reliable CF is in this day and age… Certainly expect Ollie to go from strength to strength here… hope and pray he breaks Gabby’s scoring record asap too… Crazy how times have changed, used to be so many star strikers back in the day… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted July 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22, 2023 8 hours ago, John said: I see the Express online has the same story (link below). Archie Griggs writes that "no concrete approaches have been made by the Blues as things stand" and adds that Watkins "is said to have a market value of just £35million, which could represent a bargain for Chelsea if they manage to agree a deal at that price in the near future." £35m! what a joke, that would indeed be a bargain. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1793934/Chelsea-Ollie-Watkins-Man-Utd-Marcus-Rashford-Premier-League-transfer-news A Wellesbourne market value? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I can't see him going anywhere. This is the best time in many many years to be a villa player and we are not a selling club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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