HanoiVillan Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Well I could have gone all Wing Co Charles Reep for the nerds but decided against it You have given me something to read about, thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: I wouldn't go that far. Twice recently the candidate has lost the popular vote and won the EC. Both Republicans and both controversially. Before Bush, a candidate hadn't won the Presidency without winning the popular vote for over 100 years, and dislike of the EC was a bipartisan issue until the last 20 years. The fact that both recent examples have resulted in Republican presidents kinda highlights the issue. If Trump were to win the EC and lose the popular vote (he is extremely likely to lose this, 538's model puts his chances of winning the popular vote at 3%) then 7 of the last 8 elections would have had a Democrat win the popular vote, whilst only winning the Presidency 50% of the time. The Republican platform is becoming more and more out of touch with the American people, but by stacking the deck in their favour they have managed to cling on to the presidency more often than they should have, all whilst becoming increasingly obstuctionist and detached from their supposed beliefs, seemingly morphing in to a party that believe in "stopping the libs" rather than conservative ideals (For example, what has Trump promised to do in his second term? I'm pretty sure his entire campaign has been Democrats=Bad, nothing else). After both 2008 and 2012, it was said that the Republicans needed to adapt to the changing face of America, and they appeared to be trying to attract more diverse support, at least in appearance if not substance, by having Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio as major candidates in 2016 (both 1st generation immigrants), but then Trump made them realise they could be completely unrepresentative of the American people whilst still winning the Presidency so are doubling down further and target very select groups of people in a handful of states, instead of trying to represent all Americans. And that is all thanks to the EC being so unrepresentative, which cause the votes of the average Pennsylvanian to be worth more than that of a New Yorker, Californian, Texan or Montanan. There's a reason why when America exports "Democracy" around the world, they never set up Electoral Colleges. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 where are the stories about the crazies voting for horrible people purely on the basis that they love god more than the other candidates? looking at you Carolina... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darrenm Posted November 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2020 Wow so apparently the electoral college was created to protect slave owners 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, darrenm said: Wow so apparently the electoral college was created to protect slave owners Sponsored by a vodka company. Appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted November 2, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: You have given me something to read about, thank you Inverting the Pyramid: The History of Football Tactics by Jonathan Wilson would be my tip here 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 40 minutes ago, bickster said: Inverting the Pyramid: The History of Football Tactics by Jonathan Wilson would be my tip here Excellent recommendation regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 OT: I think it was Reep who Graham Taylor and Roy Hodgson borrowed their percentage based football from. Causing Taylor to rescue Watford then us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, bickster said: Inverting the Pyramid: The History of Football Tactics by Jonathan Wilson would be my tip here I've been meaning to buy that one for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 2, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) Out of interest how many people on here are actual Americans and how many ex Europeans who have emigrated. I am fascinated by the "local" insight but wondering if it's pure native* or with a European slant. Just realised that using the word native when talking about Americans could be confusing! I meant it in a born in the USA kinda way. Edited November 2, 2020 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Out of interest how many people on here are actual Americans and how many ex Europeans who have emigrated. I am fascinated by the "local" insight but wondering if it's pure native or with a European slant. I believe @maqroll is born and bred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, sidcow said: I meant it in a "born in the USA kinda way" Politically correct Springsteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 2, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, darrenm said: OT: I think it was Reep who Graham Taylor and Roy Hodgson borrowed their percentage based football from. Causing Taylor to rescue Watford then us. Also interesting that he worked extensively with Brentford in the early 50s - looks like their analytical approach goes back a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, sidcow said: Out of interest how many people on here are actual Americans and how many ex Europeans who have emigrated. I am fascinated by the "local" insight but wondering if it's pure native* or with a European slant. Just realised that using the word native when talking about Americans could be confusing! I meant it in a born in the USA kinda way. I think there are very few native Americans on this board. I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 As someone with only a very basic understanding of US presidential elections, I found this video fascinating 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: Politically correct Springsteen Isn't Springsteen pretty darn politically correct already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Davkaus said: As someone with only a very basic understanding of US presidential elections, I found this video fascinating That’s where the White House defences come in handy Quote Federal authorities are expected to re-erect a “non-scalable” fence around the White House on Monday, a day before a presidential election many fear may lead to mass protest, civil unrest and even armed insurrection. Amid speculation that the election result will not be immediately known and signs Republicans will either declare victory early or mount legal challenges if Donald Trump appears to have lost, multiple news outlets reported the White House plan, citing anonymous sources. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/02/white-house-non-scaleable-fence-election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted November 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2020 He is so weird 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 3, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2020 17 hours ago, bickster said: Inverting the Pyramid: The History of Football Tactics by Jonathan Wilson would be my tip here 16 hours ago, Michelsen said: Excellent recommendation regardless. yep. Horrendously off topic but probably the best football book ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 3, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: He is so weird To be honest this is my favourite thing he's ever done as president Not sure an iconic gay anthem would appeal much to his supporters though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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