sharkyvilla Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I'm going to predict a big Biden win. I can't see the polls being wrong enough for Trump to win. He surely cannot have won many new votes, virtually zero from Democrat voters and many of the floating voters he got last time must regret their decision by now. Not to mention there will be a certain number of Republican voters who are appalled by him, easy to forget there are actually a lot of decent people in America too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Tegis said: Those are air-rifles. You need to go through a f***-ton of legislation hoops, having a hunting license (or maybe being active in the military, not sure) to be able to sell hunting-gear and the permissions are only issued by the Police. The only store I know of besides the specialists to bother with it are some of the XXL sport stores. Assuming it's the Norwegian company, XXL sporting goods? Don't they all sell weapons? Think I've seen 308 rifles wherever I've been, and that sure ain't no air rifle ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 30, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, villakram said: It is worth nothing that the polling firms that got it right in 2016 have this as a much closer race than the "mainstream" polls, e.g., MI is a toss-up in their eyes. Its also worth pointing out that its rare that the pollsters that got it closest last time, get closest the next time (well in the UK anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 30, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Assuming it's the Norwegian company, XXL sporting goods? Don't they all sell weapons? Think I've seen 308 rifles wherever I've been, and that sure ain't no air rifle ammo Yep the very same. And for curiosity i went to check. You can buy a rifle and ammo online You need to send them all your permits before they grant you the pleasure. But still doable. The stores are more miss than hit (the swedish ones) because the reasons stated in the earlier post as far as I can see. They list the rifles as "out of stock" in stores on the website. I guess online sales are easier. Cut the prices and let people do the testing at other stores. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, villakram said: It is worth nothing that the polling firms that got it right in 2016 have this as a much closer race than the "mainstream" polls, e.g., MI is a toss-up in their eyes. Following @HanoiVillan's question about their 2018 performance, if could just supplement that with their 2012 performance as well. I mean, you could have just saved the work by telling us which polls you were cherry-picking and we could check ourselves, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 One of my childhood heroes, Canadian hockey player Bobby Orr, has endorsed Trump. Devastating. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Hunting season here starts on Sunday, so the occasional burst of gunfire over the next month isn't going to be helping anyone's nerves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 'The polls were wrong in 2016!' is overstated'. They got it right in the context of the popular vote which Hillary won overwhelmingly. From a data perspective, it's hard to get around the crazily undemocratic system the US have. 70,000 voters made the difference there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: 'The polls were wrong in 2016!' is overstated'. They got it right in the context of the popular vote which Hillary won overwhelmingly. From a data perspective, it's hard to get around the crazily undemocratic system the US have. 70,000 voters made the difference there. Clinton actually received as many votes (give or take a few thousand ) as Obama did in 2012 to get his 322 electoral seats ... she ended up with 227 !! Amongst many flaws in the system , 48states give their college seats on a winner takes all basis , it’s pretty bonkers when you think about it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: 'The polls were wrong in 2016!' is overstated'. They got it right in the context of the popular vote which Hillary won overwhelmingly. From a data perspective, it's hard to get around the crazily undemocratic system the US have. 70,000 voters made the difference there. The Electoral College should be on the chopping block if the Dems take full control. But Biden will probably try to be everyone's friend and not do shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 It's 2020, of course Trump is going to win. One way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, sne said: It's 2020, of course Trump is going to win. One way or another. I see no other outcome. Things have only gotten zanier since 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, Keyblade said: I see no other outcome. Things have only gotten zanier since 2016. My hope lies with Neil deGrasse Tyson and his comet that is supposed to hit earth on November 2nd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I see no other outcome. Things have only gotten zanier since 2016. Yep, it’ll be Trump and he will then try and change the laws so he can run for a third term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: Yep, it’ll be Trump and he will then try and change the laws so he can run for a third term. Or put one of his spawn like Ivanka on the throne. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted October 31, 2020 Administrator Share Posted October 31, 2020 15 hours ago, Follyfoot said: God bless America FREEDUMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 oof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 31, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 Video of some of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Scary situation, though perhaps 'attempted homicide' is an exaggeration of Bamford-esque proportions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 53 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: Video of some of it Would suck so hard to live in the US right now. Country is so divided and their pseudo-democracy is well and truly on the verge of collapsing. This is Trump's legacy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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