villa89 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Great learning experience for him. He just needs to learn to do everything twice as fast as he's used to and he'll be some player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 What a day for Carney - playing in front of 40000 people and in a weakened Villa side and he gave it his best. This lad should have a big future and will only get better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Big learning curve for him today. Will stand him in good stead. Shows the club have huge faith in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) I didn't think he struggled, but I think he gassed second half and they bought him off at the right time. That's my opinion and if you disagree, I likely don't give much of a ****. Edited August 28, 2021 by dont_do_it_doug. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I didn't think he struggled, but I think he gassed second half and they bought him off at the right time. That's my opinion and if you disagree, I likely don't give much of a ****. Agreed, he looked decent, not at all out of place, always willing to get forward. Needs to cover more ground and be more physical but thought he did well. Edited August 28, 2021 by VillanousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I didn't think he struggled, but I think he gassed second half and they bought him off at the right time. That's my opinion and if you disagree, I likely don't give much of a ****. Totally agree. To someone who had never watched football before he wouldn't have stood out as someone making their first ever start at this level. He's 17! Didn't look scared or intimidated at all. I remember being 17 and being scared to put petrol in the car. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 He looked a bit lost today, however it will do him a world of good. Towards the end he started stepping across or getting involved in the tackle, before that he looked like a 17 year old playing men’s football. Hope to see him more, he’s currently tall and gangly. If he fulfill anywhere near his potential and fills out he’s going to be a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 29, 2021 Moderator Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Mantis said: Honestly I thought he looked lost in midfield for large parts of the game. BUT He's literally 17 and was completely thrown into it under difficult circumstances, and did also show flashes of brilliance, so he gets nothing but praise from me. This. It was great that he got game time, saw the intensity, pace and speed is a level above anything he’s experienced before, but he looked like what he is - a really promising teenager dropped into a men’s game and caught out by the speed of it all. He didn’t actually contribute much to the game other than effort and the odd nice first touch. But that’s fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, blandy said: This. It was great that he got game time, saw the intensity, pace and speed is a level above anything he’s experienced before, but he looked like what he is - a really promising teenager dropped into a men’s game and caught out by the speed of it all. He didn’t actually contribute much to the game other than effort and the odd nice first touch. But that’s fine. Indeed. I bet he woke up this morning tired, sore etc but overall in no doubt whatsoever how tough the PL is in terms of pace, physicality etc. A fantastic step in his development and the perfect opposition for him as Brentford are very physical and relentless pressers. He will probably know himself that there is plenty of work to do but should gain confidence from his first start. For me, not a starter for us yet but his potential is bloody scary. Well done young man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: But he did struggle, and he did look a little out of place. His touch evaded him a few times, he missed a few tackles and he wasn’t in the game. Saying he was fine and had a good game is just seeing what you want to see. It just is. I absolutely rate him, and for a 17yr old, his performance was absolutely fine. But in the context of a PL match, he struggled. BUT. He’ll be a superstar. I’m sure of it. Don't bother. He's a highly rated 17yr from our academy, people will see what they want to see. I felt the same with Ramsey's early performances. Actually, I think he looked nervier in this game than any of Ramsey's performances last season.e People just judge these players on different standards, especially early on. I will say if someone like Hourihane or Mcginn put in that kind of performance, the reaction in his thread would've been a lot more negative. That's not to say he doesn't have massive potential or that he didn't do well considering his age. But as a first team PL midfielder he still looks a ways off from where we would need him to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 All I could think about with the 17 comments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samjp26 Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: But he did struggle, and he did look a little out of place. His touch evaded him a few times, he missed a few tackles and he wasn’t in the game. Saying he was fine and had a good game is just seeing what you want to see. It just is. I absolutely rate him, and for a 17yr old, his performance was absolutely fine. But in the context of a PL match, he struggled. BUT. He’ll be a superstar. I’m sure of it. He got dispossessed once, he also only missed one tackle. He only tried to take on his man twice and he succeeded both times, the second time leading to a booking for them. He had to do a lot less, he tried to do lot less, and I’m sure the senior players expected less of him in comparison to the cup game, however he did fine and he held his own for 70+ minutes in his first PL start at the age of 17. It’s remarkable that he has all the attributes to compete at the very pinnacle of English football at his age and you’re right, he will definitely be a star, just hope it’s for us. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I didn't think he struggled, but I think he gassed second half and they bought him off at the right time. That's my opinion and if you disagree, I likely don't give much of a ****. Yeah it’s exactly what happened, and people shouldn’t have to provide context for every post because context is, well, context. He was very good. The context is - 17, debut, wasn’t expecting to play, cobbled together side, went 1 down very early through no fault of his, shit referee, Brentford were trying to ruin to flow of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, a m ole said: He was very good. He just wasn’t. He’s a fantastic talent, should have a great future and yes it was his debut and yes he is 17 but I’m going to be very generous and say taking that into consideration he was ok. It wasn’t a very good 17 year old debut at all, it just ok at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 minute ago, nick76 said: He just wasn’t. He’s a fantastic talent, should have a great future and yes it was his debut and yes he is 17 but I’m going to be very generous and say taking that into consideration he was ok. It wasn’t a very good 17 year old debut at all, it just ok at best. Yes he was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 minute ago, a m ole said: Yes he was. Villa tinted, loving our youth at any cost glasses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Well at the age of 49 i have just learned that sky replay the full game the morning after . So i can sit down and see if it was a good debut for a 17 yr old or a crap one. Without seeing him i think we can all agree already that by the time he is 19 he should be absolutely fine as he has all the raw talent you could wish for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Villa tinted, loving our youth at any cost glasses No, just not an idiot. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Well at the age of 49 i have just learned that sky replay the full game the morning after . So i can sit down and see if it was a good debut for a 17 yr old or a crap one. Without seeing him i think we can all agree already that by the time he is 19 he should be absolutely fine as he has all the raw talent you could wish for I wouldn't even say that. Player development is full of pitfalls. It's taken far too easily for granted that young players will improve simply because they're young and talented. Many have failed to meet the expectations people have had for them in their youth for various reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, nick76 said: Villa tinted, loving our youth at any cost glasses £3.99 in the Villa Store, or they give you £26.01 in cash if you use the code VILLAVJHDVYUAYUDVAUKYS. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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