foreveryoung Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I couldn't be less surprised that this is your opinion. You gonna tell me global warming is real too. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 25, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Will the trial be here or in Kentucky ? Good point. Getting my yout gatherings mixed up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 25, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: You gonna tell me global warming is real too. Nah I won't. But 97% of actively publishing climate scientists will. As will most of the leading scientific organisations around the world who have all published public statements expressing as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted March 25, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2020 The issue with Thunberg is pretty much her background and presentation. A privileged kid with a brattish delivery is going to put people's backs up, even if she's right. Which she is. Off topic anywho. She'd probably approve of the fact the planet seems to be reacting well to large numbers of people doing sod all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: You gonna tell me global warming is real too. Covid-19 is going to pale in comparison to climate change in a decade or 2. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Huh, just found a 2018 bbc4 doc on iPlayer discussing our preparations before an expected pandemic. It's by Hannah Fry. Proof we knew of the risks then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Rodders said: Huh, just found a 2018 bbc4 doc on iPlayer discussing our preparations before an expected pandemic. It's by Hannah Fry. Proof we knew of the risks then. Rule #1: Cardio Rule #2: The Double Tap Rule #3: Beware of Bathrooms Rule #4: Wear Your Seatbelt Rule #5: No Attachments Rule #6: Cast Iron Skillet Rule #7: Travel Light Rule #8: Get a Kickass Partner Rule #9: With Your Bare Hands Rule #10: Don’t Swing Low Rule #11: Use Your Feet Rule #12: Bounty Paper Towels Rule #13: Shake It Off Rule #14: Always Carry a Change of Underwear Rule #15: Bowling Ball Rule #16: Opportunity Knocks Rule #17: (Don’t) Be a Hero Rule #18: Limber Up Rule #19: Break It Up Rule #20: It’s a Marathon, Not a Sprint Rule #21: Avoid Strip Clubs Rule #22: When in Doubt, Know Your Way Out Rule #23: Ziploc Rule #24: Use Your Thumbs Rule #25: Shoot First Rule #26: A Little Sunscreen Never Hurt Anybody Rule #27: Incoming! Rule #28: Double-knot Your Shoes Rule #29: The Buddy System Rule #30: Pack Your Stain Stick Rule #31: Check the Back Seat Rule #32: Enjoy the Little Things Rule #33: Swiss Army Knife 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted March 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: You gonna tell me global warming is real too. I was hoping that one of the benefits of this pandemic would be people starting to believe science and experts in other areas that pose serious threat to the world. Clearly not for some. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Covid-19 is going to pale in comparison to climate change in a decade or 2. Red Dead Redemption 6 is probably going to involve picking up your own horseshit mind you. Still loads to look forward to. Edited March 25, 2020 by Brumerican 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 On 23/03/2020 at 10:47, Awol said: That’s grounds for a drone strike. Big barbecue today with a load of mates round. Might as well make the most of the sunshine after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Big barbecue today with a load of mates round. Might as well make the most of the sunshine after all. A toofer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, Rodders said: Huh, just found a 2018 bbc4 doc on iPlayer discussing our preparations before an expected pandemic. It's by Hannah Fry. Proof we knew of the risks then. oof. Final line - "pandemics... what the government consider the greatest risk to our society" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Not sure if anyone saw this posted a while back. Scary stuff seems so real now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Not sure if anyone saw this posted a while back. Scary stuff seems so real now!! Does anyone else tgink that woman bottom right looks like Greta Thunberg? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snowychap Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Grauniad: Quote Thousands of 15-minute home tests for coronavirus will be delivered by Amazon to people self-isolating with symptoms or will go on sale on the high street within days, according to Public Health England (PHE), in a move that could restore many people’s lives to a semblance of pre-lockdown normality. Prof Sharon Peacock, the director of the national infection service at PHE, told MPs on the science and technology committee that mass testing in the UK would be possible by next week. The UK government has bought 3.5m tests, which the health secretary, Matt Hancock, mentioned on Tuesday with no suggestion that they would be available to the public so quickly, and is ordering millions more.The test, which looks like a pregnancy test and involves pricking the finger to produce a drop of blood, which is then analysed by the device, will first be validated in Oxford to ensure it works as well as scientists hope. That will happen this week, Peacock said, and it will then be available to test healthcare workers and also the general public. “Several million tests have been purchased for use. These are brand new products. We have to be clear they work as they are claimed to do,” she said. “Once they have been tested this week and the bulk of tests arrive, they will be distributed into the community.” .... Amazon has agreed to carry out distribution and the tests will also go on sale in chemist shops. Asked if they would be available in days rather than weeks or months, Peacock said: “Yes, absolutely.” If there was a charge for them, she thought it would be minimal, she said. ... NHS workers or anyone else will be able to know if they have had the virus and are therefore immune, which means they could resume their normal lives, no longer having to work from home or keep their distance from other people. It is widely thought that having Covid-19 makes people immune to the disease or that if they get it a second time, they do not transmit it. The test detects the presence of IGM, an antibody that arises very early on in the infection, and IGG, which is increased in the body’s response to the virus. The results of some of the tests on order can be read by anyone, but others would need to be interpreted by healthcare professionals. ...more Good news but there has to be some caution, again, I think. Firstly, they have to be tested to make sure they work; secondly, there will be a limited supply at first; thirdly, I can see a huge 'run' on chemist shops which may well produce unintended consequences; fourthly, how far back do they go (I think the point has been mentioned before about antibody tests seeing whether you;ve had it in the last x number of days); fifthly, the interpretation - it mentions in the article that some will only be able to be done by health workers, so does that mean there will be more than one variety of test?; lastly, there is, always and ever present, this 'It is widely thought that having Covid-19 makes people immune to the disease or that if they get it a second time, they do not transmit it' which does have me hoping that 'widely thought' translates into 'actually the case'. Edit: Thought of another one - how much do we trust people to self-declare honestly? Edited March 25, 2020 by snowychap added missing link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 London woman dies of suspected Covid-19 after being told she was 'not priority Quote A 36-year-old woman died at her flat in south London of suspected Covid-19 a day after calling 999 and being told to look after herself at home. Kayla Williams, a mother of three, died on Saturday 21 March, a day after paramedics were called to her home in Peckham. Her husband, Fabian Williams, a refuse collector, said his wife was suffering from a cough, high fever and had severe chest and stomach pains when he called 999 on Friday. Documents seen by the Guardian confirm paramedics were treating her as a suspected Covid-19 case. Williams said: “I called 999 because my wife was breathless, she was vomiting and she had pains in her stomach. As I was talking to them she was getting worse and they told me to put her on the floor and to make her body flat.” When the paramedic arrived at 8.32am she carried out some tests, Williams said. “She told me the hospital won’t take her, she is not a priority. She did not stay very long and she went outside to write her report and posted it through the door.” Williams said his wife’s condition deteriorated the next day. He ran her a bath in the morning and helped her to get dressed, before feeding her some soup. After taking a short rest himself, he went into the front room where she had been resting to find his wife slumped head down. “She was already dead,” he said. “I put her on the ground – because that is what they had told me to do before – and I rang 999 again and they told me to put my hand on her chest and pump her chest.” Three cars and an ambulance arrived at his home a short time later, he said. The crews tried to revive his wife, but were not successful. Williams, 49, said the police later visited his home, but would not enter his flat. “They stood on the doorstep and would not come in when I asked them to,” he said. They were followed an hour later by a funeral director. “They put on full forensic suits outside, with full masks, visors and gloves. They covered their feet as well. This is when I thought; ‘What’s going on? This is not right,’” he said. Williams said the undertaker wrapped sheeting around his wife’s face, before wrapping her body tightly and placing her in a body bag – all procedures required in an infectious disease death. “I have heard nothing since,” he said. “They have left me here and said I must isolate. They haven’t told me anything else. I am a diabetic. I take insulin. All I know is I am supposed to isolate. No one has mentioned her body being tested or anything.” Documents seen by the Guardian completed by the London ambulance service after their first visit show Kayla Williams was suffering from “?Cov 19”. Symptoms were listed as: “non-productive cough … headache … chest pains all over”. The advice given was “self-care, use antipyretics, increase food/fluid.”. Fabian Williams was advised to use “999 for emergency, use 111 online for advice. Family also advised to isolate.” A spokesperson for the London ambulance service said: “We were called at 8.32am on Friday 20 March to reports of a person unwell at an address in Peckham. Our clinicians treated a patient and advised them to call back if their condition changed. “We were called the following day at 3.24pm and sent a number of resources, with our first medics arriving in under seven minutes. Sadly, the patient had died. Our sympathy is with the family at this time. “We are working incredibly hard in these unprecedented times to look after Londoners.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 UK numbers of cases and deaths look surprisingly small? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 25, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 25, 2020 New day, new employment decision Most staff are now being "furloughed" at the end of the week. I however have been deemed critical and will be working from home on Full Pay (I might find out more tomorrow or Friday Tony) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Genie said: UK numbers of cases and deaths look surprisingly small? Just seen that, Is that a fully updated UK total of 150 new cases + 11 deaths for today or partial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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