avfc1982am Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) The only left sided position Mings should play is, Left Back in the changing room. Edited November 16, 2021 by avfc1982am 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 51 minutes ago, Tom13 said: And I agree with you 95% of the time Careful mate. I also post alot of Bollox , that pe centage is way too high. Make it closer to 50/50 to be safe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 That 8th goal for England, he should be scoring more of for us....but he didn't do much wrong last night. I think he will be a player, that SG and his team will spend time with.....how that ends, I am not sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 He's had 2 major injuries on his knee? If you look at his leg it's scarred to buggery. His days of running up and down the wings are long gone. He'll be managing himself just to make it to 33. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I really hope Gerrard gets him full of confidence, he really needs it. I think his 'flamboyancy' on the pitch is something manageable, he has done it before and can do it again. Go on Tyrone! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 22 hours ago, avfc1982am said: I don't think so. He didn't sign until late in the window on our PL return. If you mean loan then probably, him or Axel? Axel was already here Bruce brought him in, Hause came in on loan first then Mings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 14 hours ago, TRO said: That 8th goal for England, he should be scoring more of for us....but he didn't do much wrong last night. I think he will be a player, that SG and his team will spend time with.....how that ends, I am not sure. He’s been a valuable player for us, we pretty much all know his strengths and weaknesses. His form has dipped this season alongside a lot of others. One of the first tasks for SG and the coaches is to identify why and try to put it right. We can’t change the personnel for at least 6 weeks and even then the squad isn’t going to change dramatically. I believe the approach will be to get the best out of all the players, particularly the captain. We will need him and the rest to be onboard from day one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 16/11/2021 at 06:33, Eligius said: Like who? You can definitely buy a better centre back for 40m, it's down to Lange who that should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 16/11/2021 at 08:13, jacketspuds said: I remember saying the same thing about Milner. Just think what we could do with £20m and Stephen Ireland. Turns out I’m an idiot. He is a far superior player..... still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Listening to that Downing clip someone posted in one of the threads, he said Ireland was quality in training but used to have some sort of mental block when it came to games, especially against certain teams that he'd struggled against in the past. Hinted that he'd drop out of games when he wasn't confident about putting in a good performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa89 Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 08:41, Mic09 said: I really hope Gerrard gets him full of confidence, he really needs it. I think the opposite. If Gerrard can reduce his over confidence and get him to concentrate on the basics more then Mings would be a much better player. He seems to think he's pirlo on the ball. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, villa89 said: I think the opposite. If Gerrard can reduce his over confidence and get him to concentrate on the basics more then Mings would be a much better player. He seems to think he's pirlo on the ball. There'll be no sentiment from Gerrard with Mings, or any player come to that. They're all unproven to Gerrard and the coaches. The amount of costly error Mings has won't be tolerated especially given that Gerrard will be given more money to send to bring his own players in. FYI, I'm not saying Mings shouldn't start for us, he should, and we're better with him, but that doesn't mean he can't, nor shouldn't, improve. Hope we get back to him and Konsa at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 hours ago, villa89 said: I think the opposite. If Gerrard can reduce his over confidence and get him to concentrate on the basics more then Mings would be a much better player. He seems to think he's pirlo on the ball. I just think he has a propensity to choose the less safe option from time to time. Maybe because he's confident (not a bad thing), or maybe because he thinks it's the unexpected option. I think that what Gerrard could do is to drill into him to opt for the safer option more often and I hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) £40m for Mings would be an incredible deal for Aston Villa. The biggest problem, aside from the obviously one of selling one of your best centre halves in January, is that nobody in their right mind is paying £40m for him. It's not even that I dislike Mings, I think he's a good, if flawed, defender for where we are. It's just not realistic to expect that kinda dough for him. Edited November 18, 2021 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThunderPower_14 Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 Mings is more than just our best defender and it's speculative to think we could definitely improve on him for £40m if we could even get that. Is a £40m player from the continent going to be definitely better. Would a CB worth £40m even come to us in our current state as a lower mid table Prem side? Can we replace his leadership on and off the pitch? We had an excellent defence last season and it's gone to crap a bit this season, IMO because the formation has been all over the place. Let the back 4+Martinez settle, let the general formation settle and they'll all go back to playing excellent football. Gerrard's Rangers conceded 13 goals in 38 league games last season. I know it's a different level but it shows that his teams are disciplined and defensively sound. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: £40m for Mings would be an incredible deal for Aston Villa. The biggest problem, aside from the obviously one of selling one of your best centre halves in January, is that nobody in their right mind is paying £40m for him. It's not even that I dislike Mings, I think he's a good, if flawed, defender for where we are. It's just not realistic to expect that kinda dough for him. England International and villa captain, in January when its a sellers market I'd be disappointed with £40m We can't replace him for that much 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: England International and villa captain, in January when its a sellers market I'd be disappointed with £40m We can't replace him for that much I agree but also nobody is paying it, so it won't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Except we obviously could replace him with £40m because that's roughly double what we paid for him the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 We have been down this road so many times and as soon as you take Mings out of our defence everything goes to pot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Except we obviously could replace him with £40m because that's roughly double what we paid for him the first place. We didn't buy the player he is now for 20m. Edited November 18, 2021 by lexicon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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