Skills Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 7 hours ago, jim said: Welcome John how does that neck hold that thing up??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, Hoof hearted said: Sure he's not asking Wayne Bridge to smell his fingers?.. Damned it... to slow... BBC website media gossip 'trigger' page suggesting that JT has been offered the chance to succeed Mr Bruce as manager if he signs for us. Wow... I assume he has some badges and certificates then? What do the Brouters think of this? Edited June 29, 2017 by Raver50032 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Raver50032 said: Damned it... to slow... BBC website media gossip 'trigger' page suggesting that JT has been offered the chance to succeed Mr Bruce as manager if he signs for us. Wow... I assume he has some badges and certificates then? What do the Brouters think of this? If true then it's poor ownership for me - you don't make that sort of decision to try and entice a player to a club - xia was the one who allegedly wanted RDM due to his high profile and being well known in China for his Chelsea exploits and I hope we are not getting Terry for similar reason . im all for the signing of Terry but not if there is some offer to succeed Bruce eventually - he needs to learn the management game and would be better doing so when the time comes elsewhere. who knows how his time here will turn out - there cannot be any guarantees like that to entice him here - I want john terry here because he sees it as a challenge to help villa to promotion and a good way to end his career . Not because it's an easy step into management. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Eastie said: If true then it's poor ownership for me - you don't make that sort of decision to try and entice a player to a club - xia was the one who allegedly wanted RDM due to his high profile and being well known in China for his Chelsea exploits and I hope we are not getting Terry for similar reason . im all for the signing of Terry but not if there is some offer to succeed Bruce eventually - he needs to learn the management game and would be better doing so when the time comes elsewhere. who knows how his time here will turn out - there cannot be any guarantees like that to entice him here - I want john terry here because he sees it as a challenge to help villa to promotion and a good way to end his career . Not because it's an easy step into management. Tongue in cheek supposition from me here, but imagine him as our manager in the Premier League. We'd start on -6 points each season for his Chelsea principles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted June 29, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2017 13 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: Now if we could fulfil a lifelong ambition and sign a goalkeeper called Jesus i would be happy He'd have trouble with crosses. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Or Terry could become the greatest Villa appointment since what Gregory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Now If I was Dr Tone, I wouldn't mind offering JT this as a sweetener. However, I'd be stipulating that he won't be taking over within the next 3 or so years if Bruce goes within that time- he's basically on an apprenticeship that must be finished. Point is, we don't know the specifics of the clause, or even if it exists, so I would urge caution before jumping to the conclusion that we're hiring Bruce's immediate successor in JT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Papers all saying terry may be given opportunity to succeed Bruce. Not sure I am happy with that be quiet inexperienced... I think he could be tempted by the possibility of continuing to work on his coaching badges with us and with the prospect of a coaching role later but as far as taking over from SB is concerned I doubt there has been any guarantee. I think it more likely that the idea has been planted that he might have a chance when SB does vacate the hot seat which might be in say 10 years time after we have won another Champions League title of three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, John said: I think he could be tempted by the possibility of continuing to work on his coaching badges with us and with the prospect of a coaching role later but as far as taking over from SB is concerned I doubt there has been any guarantee. I think it more likely that the idea has been planted that he might have a chance when SB does vacate the hot seat which might be in say 10 years time after we have won another Champions League title of three. I think you are correct, John. And it would be quite a sweetener for an ambitious guy like Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Papers all saying terry may be given opportunity to succeed Bruce. Not sure I am happy with that be quiet inexperienced... I think this could be later down the line (after a couple of years coaching). It has happened before at other clubs, Mark Hughes (Blackburn Rovers) and Stuart Pearce (Man City) both finished their careers at this level and achieved promotion to the Premier League, a few years later they went on to manage the club. Edited June 29, 2017 by GENTLEMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I think he will be offered opportunities to develop his Coaching/Manager Career at Villa. He is taking the badges so he is interested and Villa are not a bad place to develop as if all goes to plan he can find himself a manager at a premiership club. Is it such a bad thing to have some sort of plan to succeed a manager? The biggest failure at Man U was that twice now they have not developed a successor to the Manager when he retires (Thinking Busby and Fergie). Look at Barca, they allowed Pep to develop and he then stepped up when Van Gal left. He knew the club players that were coming through etc and the rest is history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 49 minutes ago, NIVillan said: I think he will be offered opportunities to develop his Coaching/Manager Career at Villa. He is taking the badges so he is interested and Villa are not a bad place to develop as if all goes to plan he can find himself a manager at a premiership club. Is it such a bad thing to have some sort of plan to succeed a manager? The biggest failure at Man U was that twice now they have not developed a successor to the Manager when he retires (Thinking Busby and Fergie). Look at Barca, they allowed Pep to develop and he then stepped up when Van Gal left. He knew the club players that were coming through etc and the rest is history. Terry hasn't even kicked a ball yet for villa so any talk of him as next manager is farcical - let's see what happens during his time here first . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I hope the club have struck a deal something like this (what I would do - a take it or leave it deal) Basic 10kpw appearance + 10k clean sheet + 10k win +10k goal +10k 10+ games +10kpw 20+ games +10kpw 30+ games + 10kpw Promotion via playoffs 1mill 2nd 2mill 1st 3mill if it all goes well he'll be on 50-80kpw promotion could be percieved as a transfer fee. 1-3mill signing gets you promoted = bargain = everybody happy Regarding Terry as "plan B" if/when Bruce fails. The real question is, who would you prefer in charge "untill a new manager is appointed" Calderwood or Terry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Offer him what you want, can't be enforced by a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 The "Bruce Out" brigade must be a little bit happier if these rumours are true. However, it doesn't necessarily mean that we will be any better off. The one thing Terry might bring to the club is a bit of on-field nastiness. For too long we have been a soft touch on the pitch and that might just change, which would be welcomed by me. I just hope the deal isn't stupid for the club. I would hate to think that, if Terry plays 10 games and we get promoted he gets £5m for his year with us. I know that people would argue it would have been worth it but it doesn't mean that we got promoted because of him, especially if he played such a small amount of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Really hoping the rumours are wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 23 minutes ago, hippo said: Really hoping the rumours are wrong. WHY? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 23 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: WHY? Because I think he's past it Because I think he is a terrible character and I think he may prove disruptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted June 29, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, hippo said: Because I think he's past it Because I think he is a terrible character and I think he may prove disruptive. I could maybe understand the first two reasons but not the 3rd, JT may be many things but nothing I've ever heard or read could make him out in any way to being disruptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Villan_of_oz said: I could maybe understand the first two reasons but not the 3rd, JT may be many things but nothing I've ever heard or read could make him out in any way to being disruptive. Yeah I suppose I am thinking more of the aspiring manager stuff. But yes fair point ......Just 1 & 2 then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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