AshVilla Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I've seen no evidence in the last 12 months that we look a side capable of promotion. Obviously the board see something different because Bruce is still in charge. Even if we change manager i don't think we will get promoted the damage has already been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, AshVilla said: I've seen no evidence in the last 12 months that we look a side capable of promotion. Obviously the board see something different because Bruce is still in charge. Even if we change manager i don't think we will get promoted the damage has already been done. With regret, I agree with this. I just couldn't bring myself to click "like" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted September 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2017 On 9/17/2017 at 23:15, MrDuck said: When we were promoted in 1987, we had 9pts from the first 8 games. So we're better off at this stage than the last time we got promoted Was it still 2 points for a win back in '87 or had it changed to 3 points by then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 37 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: Was it still 2 points for a win back in '87 or had it changed to 3 points by then? Good point. I think it changed to 3pts a few years earlier than that, but I'm not entirely sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintpotvilla Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 4 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Was it still 2 points for a win back in '87 or had it changed to 3 points by then? We won the league the last time it was 2pts for a win so that was 1980/81 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 aye, it was 1981 that 3 points for a win was adopted. The only anomaly between 87/88 and now is there were 23 teams, so 2 less games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2017 On 20/09/2017 at 19:35, clip on mullet said: I just hope Bruce doesn't change the formation or personnel for Forrest. It's Bruce. Of course he will change it totally unnecessarily! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 On 9/18/2017 at 04:15, MrDuck said: When we were promoted in 1987, we had 9pts from the first 8 games. So we're better off at this stage than the last time we got promoted I like rewriting history to ignore the dark days but just to be pedantic we were relegated in 1987 and promoted in 1988 After those 8 games we then continued on a run that lost 1 game in the league (against Champions elect Millwall) up until valentines day. (15/7/1). We won 16, drew 8 and lost 1 in 25 games after those 3 losses, 2 draws and a win in the opening 6 games. Then lost 6 of the next 9 games including against rivals Middlesborough and Millwall and stumbled over the line with a draw, 2 wins and a draw in the last 4 games going up 4 points behind Champions Millwall in second place and then, only by goals scored over Middlesborough, who finished on the same points and same goal difference. 5 draws and 2 losses (the first of which was against SHA at home!) in the first 7 home games too. Taylor's first home league win was in mid October. Which is all of arguable interest, very little relevance to now and definitely veering off topic I know. Ive said before about Bruce I reckon scraping 2nd is about his ceiling. Lets hope (what's left!) that 30 years on there's a similar happy ending to this tale. However improbable it seems right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) We are 7 points adrift with 8 games played, 17.4% of the season completed. Wolves in second place are averaging over 2 point per game, so i'd assume they'll average around 2 points per game in the near future. We will probably need to WIN the next 7 games in a row just to draw level with Wolves. just for clarity here's the workings - Villa shown first: 13 - 19 16 - 21 19 - 23 22 - 25 25 - 27 28 - 29 31 - 31 Edited September 22, 2017 by ender4 showing the workings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ender4 said: We are 7 points adrift with 8 games played, 17.4% of the season completed. Wolves in second place are averaging over 2 point per game, so i'd assume they'll average around 2 points per game in the near future. We will probably need to WIN the next 7 games in a row just to draw level with Wolves. Not sure why because wolves are averaging 2 points a game it suggests they will continue to do so:- id hazard a guess that 3 teams in the bottom half namely villa; derby and Fulham will all finish top 6 . We could be level or above them within 4 games looking at the fixtures Edited September 22, 2017 by Eastie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 18 hours ago, pintpotvilla said: Jesus we are a negative bunch on here. Being 13th in the Championship with the most expensive squad in the league will do that to you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 points off play offs, but we need to be much better than we are at the moment. Hopefully we gain a bit of confidence and hit on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: 2 points off play offs, but we need to be much better than we are at the moment. Hopefully we gain a bit of confidence and hit on. Not playing well but getting the points signs of a good team id say. We can only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted September 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2017 Top 2 play each other next. Win and it's possibly 4 points off auto promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 58 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Not playing well but getting the points signs of a good team id say. We can only get better. That holds when you have a top team who have the odd bad game and still win. The tops teams don't keep putting in shoddy performances regularly. I'd say its more the sign of simply having a group of players far better in quality than the opposition (and the respective balance sheets for each club will show that), playing a team who will be midtable at best. Keep putting in performance like today, and we will get found out against the better teams in this league, unless we are fortunate enough to have the likes of Kodjia pull something out of the hat every single week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, andym said: That holds when you have a top team who have the odd bad game and still win. The tops teams don't keep putting in shoddy performances regularly. I'd say its more the sign of simply having a group of players far better in quality than the opposition (and the respective balance sheets for each club will show that), playing a team who will be midtable at best. Keep putting in performance like today, and we will get found out against the better teams in this league, unless we are fortunate enough to have the likes of Kodjia pull something out of the hat every single week. You gotta remember though kodjia will be a lot better as tge season goes on. Hopefully by them the team will be growing more as seasom goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2017 I forgot about the joys of looking at the table when you are winning games! More of this winning please! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted September 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Nigel said: I forgot about the joys of looking at the table when you are winning games! More of this winning please! I know, it's a pleasure looking at the table and thinking about how to catch those just ahead. At the moment there is a pack separated by just one win between 10th and 4th - fact is if we can keep our form going we will be just outside automatic promotion. I am praying that we don't slip up at Burton though, can just see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jareth said: I know, it's a pleasure looking at the table and thinking about how to catch those just ahead. At the moment there is a pack separated by just one win between 10th and 4th - fact is if we can keep our form going we will be just outside automatic promotion. I am praying that we don't slip up at Burton though, can just see it. With 2 relatively easy games this week we could be right in the mix. It's also lucky that the more difficult games have come next month where we will have a week to prepare for each one. Things are definately looking up IMO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Have to admit I am feeling more positive. If we can now keep a largely unchanged side I think we can get play offs at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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