lapal_fan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Beat Bolton (only we could fudge that up) and get a draw against Wolves (at least, just don't lose) and I'll be happy. If you don't lose to your rivals and beat everyone else, you'll go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 ah sorry, i didn't explain my point very well. What i was trying to say (badly) was that we are currently 8th. Mid-way through last season we were 9th, yet still managed to finish with a complete fail. We are hoping that we are on an upward trajectory, but we thought that when we were 9th last season. It turned out to be false. I'm hoping our current 8th position is the low point of the rest of the season, but at the moment it could turn out either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, ender4 said: ah sorry, i didn't explain my point very well. What i was trying to say (badly) was that we are currently 8th. Mid-way through last season we were 9th, yet still managed to finish with a complete fail. We are hoping that we are on an upward trajectory, but we thought that when we were 9th last season. It turned out to be false. I'm hoping our current 8th position is the low point of the rest of the season, but at the moment it could turn out either way. Glass half full or half empty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Glass half full or half empty? definitely half full. I still expect to finish top 2, but i won't relax until we're firmly embedded in the top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wilko154 Posted September 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, ender4 said: ah sorry, i didn't explain my point very well. What i was trying to say (badly) was that we are currently 8th. Mid-way through last season we were 9th, yet still managed to finish with a complete fail. We are hoping that we are on an upward trajectory, but we thought that when we were 9th last season. It turned out to be false. I'm hoping our current 8th position is the low point of the rest of the season, but at the moment it could turn out either way. I understand your point here however there are a few differences this season... Squad depth is much better this season We are no longer relying on Kodjia for goals We have finally put more than 1 or 2 goals past teams Our away record is not looking as bleak as last season ACON is not going to start the decline as it did last season when we reached 9th - 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintpotvilla Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, wilko154 said: I understand your point here however there are a few differences this season... Squad depth is much better this season We are no longer relying on Kodjia for goals We have finally put more than 1 or 2 goals past teams Our away record is not looking as bleak as last season ACON is not going to start the decline as it did last season when we reached 9th - Absolutely spot on with thoses points.I couldn't agree more. Good times ahead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2017 The top 12 for last season after 11 games - Huddersfield 25 points Norwich 23 Newcastle 22 Brighton 21 Bristol City 20 Small Heath 20 Brentford 18 Reading 18 Sheffield Wed 17 Barnsley 16 Leeds 16 Wolves 15 Don't know how much can be realistically gleaned from this. I suppose if we win against Bolton we'll be on 19 points so only 3 points off what Newcastle were on at the same stage. But on the other hand we'd still be one point behind what sha had managed. I guess if it's anything to go by, it means there's still a long way to go, but it's nice to be looking at the upper reaches of the league to see where we could be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 43 minutes ago, ender4 said: ah sorry, i didn't explain my point very well. What i was trying to say (badly) was that we are currently 8th. Mid-way through last season we were 9th, yet still managed to finish with a complete fail. We are hoping that we are on an upward trajectory, but we thought that when we were 9th last season. It turned out to be false. I'm hoping our current 8th position is the low point of the rest of the season, but at the moment it could turn out either way. Yeah but it was a bit different then. We werw 18th at the time. It was very unlikely we would keep up the run to get consistently staying in play offs esp when we lost kodjia. I think if we can win sat and gwt something at wolves we are looking very good. Leeds already having a wobble. We seem to have wobbled at the start and got better since season has progressed. Rather be like that than what leeds are currently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 hours ago, ender4 said: Thats pretty interesting.We are only just about doing better than last year - our position of 8th pretty much mirrors when we were 9th mid-season last year. Lots more to do to push on and get near the promotions positions. Last season we had 10 points from 10 games. This season we have 16 points from 10. Interesting idea of "only just doing better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 41 minutes ago, wilko154 said: I understand your point here however there are a few differences this season... Squad depth is much better this season We are no longer relying on Kodjia for goals We have finally put more than 1 or 2 goals past teams Our away record is not looking as bleak as last season ACON is not going to start the decline as it did last season when we reached 9th - yep, i agree with your points 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Last season we had 10 points from 10 games. This season we have 16 points from 10. Interesting idea of "only just doing better". You know thats not the point i was making. If we want to twist it, then last season our aim was top 6 and we nowhere near it. This season our aim is top 2, and we are nowhere near it. Happy? (btw, thats not the point i'm making, i twisted that on purpose to show what you did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: The top 12 for last season after 11 games - Huddersfield 25 points Norwich 23 Newcastle 22 Brighton 21 Bristol City 20 Small Heath 20 Brentford 18 Reading 18 Sheffield Wed 17 Barnsley 16 Leeds 16 Wolves 15 Don't know how much can be realistically gleaned from this. I suppose if we win against Bolton we'll be on 19 points so only 3 points off what Newcastle were on at the same stage. But on the other hand we'd still be one point behind what sha had managed. I guess if it's anything to go by, it means there's still a long way to go, but it's nice to be looking at the upper reaches of the league to see where we could be. SHA of course showed the world how to blow a promising league start spectacularly a few weeks after this by sacking Gary Rowett and appointing a manager big on glitzy image but maybe a bit lacking on track record. could be a lesson tucked away in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, ender4 said: ah sorry, i didn't explain my point very well. What i was trying to say (badly) was that we are currently 8th. Mid-way through last season we were 9th, yet still managed to finish with a complete fail. We are hoping that we are on an upward trajectory, but we thought that when we were 9th last season. It turned out to be false. I'm hoping our current 8th position is the low point of the rest of the season, but at the moment it could turn out either way. The league position is not really the main point here, rather the confidence of where its heading for me. We are genuinely competing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Long way to go but we are getting there,we are scoring goals ,not conceding at the other end ,we have a very decent squad it's just trying to get it all to knit together and we are starting to do that long way to go and much harder games to come but we are finally looking like we are ready to challenge . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Preston right above us always seem to silently do quite well don't they? (With ex Villa lad) Just realised Callum Robinson scored their winner yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, ender4 said: You know thats not the point i was making. If we want to twist it, then last season our aim was top 6 and we nowhere near it. This season our aim is top 2, and we are nowhere near it. Happy? (btw, thats not the point i'm making, i twisted that on purpose to show what you did). I've no idea what you're on about here and this is not really an interesting enough issue to pursue any further. But I would say, looking back over the last few pages, that your comment about "only just doing better" didn't exactly win the popular vote. Edited September 27, 2017 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Preston right above us always seem to silently do quite well don't they? (With ex Villa lad) Just realised Callum Robinson scored their winner yesterday. Manged by Alex Neil, Grayson was crazy to leave them for Sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, briny_ear said: I've no idea what you're on about here and this is not really an interesting enough issue to pursue any further. But I would say, looking back over the last few pages, that your comment about "only just doing better" didn't exactly win the popular vote. I wasn't trying to win a popular vote. I was making a specific observation, and pretty much agreed with the responses i received. Except your response which went off on a different tangent to the point i had made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) Crowds have unsurprisingly been slightly down, but with the run we are on it would be great to see a big crowd on Saturday to get behind Bruce and the team. They deserve it. I'm a bit taken back with the run we are on and it's come out of nowhere with us still playing poorly, apart from last night. Edited September 27, 2017 by Rugeley Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Crowds have unsurprisingly been slightly down, but with the run we are on it would be great to see a big crowd on Saturday to get behind Bruce and the team. They deserve it. I'm a bit taken back with the run we are on and it's come out of nowhere with us still playing poorly, apart from last night. If we play like last night most weeks we will get the crowds back. Bruce needs to start banging the promotion drum and get the fans believing. For the first time in ages I can't wait for Saturday. Last nights football in patches was quality and if we will need that to be for 90 min to win against other promotion hopefuls. Just to bring us all down to earth we haven't beaten any team that we shouldn't be beating yet. Win on Saturday and we will go in to October in a good position with 3 games that will show if this resurgence is for real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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