Popular Post abdulaziz1 Posted October 2, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2015 Most of what we were depending on Benteke this guy is capable of. However he certaknly lacks the tricks,magic and the moments of brilliance that Benteke had. Im talking about playing on the ground.However he seems better in the aerial ability. I had all my doubts away in Liverpool game. And Im not considering his goals btw.Im not that all with PL experience. Especially with physical players. Championship experience hasnt stop Wilson from banging them in the league.Our own Rudy has scored more than Benteke this season with less game time in a worse team.This isnt a suggestion hes any better. But considering the step up and his fitness also. All that with a very good scoring ratio. He has a strength which he could be considered the best in the league. He might lack some football basics. But other players has their job to play to his ability. If the ability of Kozak and other poachers were movement. This guys have strength and also not bad positioning. They all lack techniques anyway.I dont think there is a player who would have fit us in the league as Benteke replacement more than this guy. In terms of presence and aerial ability. Im saying that with knowing what he lacks. I dont think we could afford to play with only small striker. We should do if we only pllayed trio of Jack Gil Adama. We couldnt afford to play with all of them apart from certain home games or halfs.Its not as Rudy is super useless in the box. Hes an ok poacher and not bad positioning.He could have ups and downs as Benteke himself. Confidence could be an issue. Not playing on his strength too.But in the end he is a great option to have. Im not that gutted even with him as a starter. Would have liked another one to share the burden. But this guy seem a really good one.And to be fair, I like big and strong strikers. It gives me more confidence about my team. Especially a struggling one like ourselves. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Agree with most of that - I like the look of him too. Absolutely monstered Sakho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You can certainly see an improvement game on game. And way better than Benteke with his head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Gestede, from what I can see is only strong in the air when attacking the ball towards goal...and assuming the delivery is excellent. My worry is Gestede has emerged form a league where he has had endless joy in the opposing box. The Premier league is a different animal and soon teams will wise up to stopping Amavi and Bacuna whipping balls into the box - therefore limiting Gestede's offering.I like the lad, he works hard and is a beast in the 'danger zone' - but we are trying to use the guy in the same way we did Benteke and he is nowhere near that level. One of Benteke's main strengths, in my opinion, was taking the ball deep and bringing our midfielders into play thus creating a counter attack and with Christian having lost his marker by dropping deep he becomes harder to stop finding space and harder to prevent getting on the end of service. Rudy doesn't have the touch, strength or quality in those areas so we're left with only being able to make use of him (primarily) through crossing to him. Im always surprised to see how many headers Rudy doesn't win when facing our goal - and from Guzan's long kicks etc. Providing we can keep finding pockets of space for players like Amavi to deliver for him then we've got a chance of making full sue of him - I just feel he's limited. But don't get me wrong he is committed, gives his all and if the cross is decent, boy he can power home a header. The Premier League can be an unforgiving place though and I'm sure teams will be trying their hardest to stop us getting any service into their box for Rudy.Worth remembering that it probably wasn't Tim's plan to have Rudy as our No.1 striker - as he was desperately trying to get Adabayor and Berbatov too. But at 27 yrs of age Rudy is no young gun and if we're going to use him then we need to get far more deliveries into him each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Carragher said on MNF that Rudy must be the best player in the air in the league at the momentHe is for me its just getting him the service, like with Benteke hoofing aimless balls to him is easy for defenders which we did vs Palace and United but whip them in and he is a threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The attack needs to be 2 dimensional, which I'm not sure it is yet. Feed Rudy with whipped in crosses (not just hoof it up to the big man) but if/when he's being marked out, use the space that creates for Gil/Grealish/Adama/Ayew to get onto. And vice versa, get the attacking mids pulling the defenders away to give Rudy space to attack the ball. He's shown he can score given the service but we have to offer variety to get him the space. Too often we seem only to be able to play to one plan at a time (and it was the same with Benteke in there).TBH I don't much care if the rest of his game is pretty average if he scores 1 in 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 If all he is good at is scoring goals surely it is then down to the management team to get players around him who can get the ball into the right areas for him to score. Would managers have not played Lineker because all he knew was to score goals from inside the box? We need to get the ball into him correctly and this guy will score for fun. It's all about the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 the problem is we saw this with Benteke and to a lesser extent Carew is that when you see a guy good in the air you just hit the ball long to him and hope he can do something with it. Especially when you are a bit under the cosh. We will need be patient and work it to the wings to get crosses in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I can see the Amavi Gestede combination getting us lots of goals this season, hopefully enough to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 For someone so big, he is incredibly poor at using his body to shield the ball when he has his back to goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 3, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2015 If we're not whipping balls in the box this guy is just pretty useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 he needs players to get up in support of him and we need to stop these floated long balls which give the defenders time to get a running jump on him.today we had sinclair running into dead ends, the midfield all 20 yards away, and this combined with the aimless hoofs it meant the ball kept coming straight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Really wish he was back up striker to a more complete forward, offers feck all other than heading the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 He will undoubtedly score goals with the correct service but outside of the box he's useless. He has the ball control of a Wildebeest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Makes us far too one dimensional and easy to defend againstWe need other outlets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I thought he was the best player on the pitch yesterday. He held the ball up well and linked with the other players..didn't get a heading chance but he can't be blamed for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Makes us far too one dimensional and easy to defend againstWe need other outletsTo be fair, I'm not sure I'd blame him for making us 1D. It's Sherwood's fault for that based on his system and tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Sherwood saw what he could do in the Liverpool game and how to effectively utilise him - so promptly decided to change things up and play him a lot deeper against Stoke. Such a thick tosser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Play him to his strengths Sherwood you dim wit!!! And hutton as a creative winger is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I think we're all kidding ourselves if we think this guy is the answer.I like Rudy, but you have to be able to offer a hell of a lot more in the premier league than he does. He'll score a few goals with headers but it's his all round game that will hold back the team as a whole. Decent squad player I suppose.I wonder who it was at the club who thought Blackburns second best striker could replace one of Europes most dangerous.Actually, don't answer that, it's the same guy who thinks Gil is only worthy of a place on the bench..sigh.UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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