Czechlad Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 St etienne are pushing for Europe league. We are clinging onto hope that we make the championship playoffs. Veretout was treated like absolute shite here. I understand him completely not wanting to come back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Czechlad said: St etienne are pushing for Europe league. We are clinging onto hope that we make the championship playoffs. Veretout was treated like absolute shite here. I understand him completely not wanting to come back. He is still under contract to Aston Villa - what we want should be what matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Eastie said: He is still under contract to Aston Villa - what we want should be what matters. Should be, but isn't. Players dictate what happens now unfortunately. Edited March 21, 2017 by Phumfeinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Just now, Phumfeinz said: Should be, but isn't. Players dictate what happens now unfortunately. Not unless any potential buyer pays what we want . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Eastie said: Not unless any potential buyer pays what we want . If he doesn't want to be here and no one offers what we want it'll likely end with him going on loan again. Doubt we'll want to keep a player in the squad who doesn't want to be here. Guess we'll see in the summer what we and he want's to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I think the horse has bolted on this one. I can't see us standing in his, Sanchez and Gil's way now they've all had better experiences in top leagues in Europe. We will need to raise a bit of money to finish off the squad for next season as I think we spent most of our budget early in January. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Signed a 5 year contract so with another 3 to run we have all the power here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: Signed a 5 year contract so with another 3 to run we have all the power here. Apart from that we really don't, sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, bobzy said: Apart from that we really don't, sure! If he had two years to run I would be concerned, as we will be looking to offload him before his value will drop significantly the following summer. As it is, I think we can afford to play hardball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: If he had two years to run I would be concerned, as we will be looking to offload him before his value will drop significantly the following summer. As it is, I think we can afford to play hardball. It's absolutely pointless keeping an unhappy footballer at the club. He won't perform, eats up wages and will inevitably get a "cut price" move somewhere. Playing hardball with that is only detrimental to the club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 4 hours ago, PieFacE said: I always find this type of opinion a bit baffling. There's a whole load of reasons why every player who played for us last season looked crap. It doesn't mean they are all crap players. The fact that Gana, Veretout, Sanchez and Gil are all currently playing regularly in much better squads than ours kinda proves the point. Agreed, although it's not baffling, it's just binary thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Let him go he was terrible here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) 54 minutes ago, bobzy said: It's absolutely pointless keeping an unhappy footballer at the club. He won't perform, eats up wages and will inevitably get a "cut price" move somewhere. Playing hardball with that is only detrimental to the club. Everyone always says this with regards to our players, and while it is obviously true to a point, I feel it's "small time" thinking. I have seen other clubs arguably "smaller" than ours point blank refuse to sell their best players until they were ready. The player can of course throw a strop for awhile, but will eventually get their head down and try to play to the best of their abilities as it is also in their interest. If they choose not to, they are probably a clearing in the woods anyway and deserve whatever treatment they get. lol EDIT: Unless they are throwing a strop to move to us of course Edited March 21, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 26 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Everyone always says this with regards to our players, and while it is obviously true to a point, I feel it's "small time" thinking. I have seen other clubs arguably "smaller" than ours point blank refuse to sell their best players until they were ready. The player can of course throw a strop for awhile, but will eventually get their head down and try to play to the best of their abilities as it is also in their interest. If they choose not to, they are probably a clearing in the woods anyway and deserve whatever treatment they get. lol EDIT: Unless they are throwing a strop to move to us of course Gareth Barry didn't do a bad job for us after we turned down his move to Liverpool . im not fussed either way with veretout , he could do a job in this division for us but I'm not too worried if we sell him - happy with either decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Everyone always says this with regards to our players, and while it is obviously true to a point, I feel it's "small time" thinking. I have seen other clubs arguably "smaller" than ours point blank refuse to sell their best players until they were ready. The player can of course throw a strop for awhile, but will eventually get their head down and try to play to the best of their abilities as it is also in their interest. If they choose not to, they are probably a clearing in the woods anyway and deserve whatever treatment they get. lol EDIT: Unless they are throwing a strop to move to us of course Yes but this is where they have a saleable asset who is in demand. Our players tend to be overpriced when we buy them and on wages no one else wants to match let alone beat. It's a different kettle of fish. I am sure with half this lot we won happily get rid of them if we can. Edited March 21, 2017 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 We would want to recoup our fee at least and cant see St,Etienne forking it out for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 They can't have him then, were not a charity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 We got him for £7 million apparently. I am not sure a club would be willing to pay that for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Can't remember where the interview is now, but I do remember him saying something along the lines of not wanting to be in another relegation battle this season (if you could call last seasons a battle instead of a surrender... Well...) being the reason why he wasn't keen on being here. Coming back into a team full of confidence and getting into the habit of winning games might be appealing to him. Bit of silverware perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Think we'll accept about 3m. Better to get an unhappy player off the wage bill which lets remember is very high for championship level. Think we'll try to balance the books by letting go of likes of Veretout, Gil, Sanchez and McCormack this summer. Those 4 are probably on close to 200k a week which is completely ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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