theboyangel Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 48 minutes ago, V01 said: You can't have two I thought there was always two? A master and an apprentice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 One thing that has bugged me though, why does John Boyega do an American accent? If it's ok for Daisy Ridley to be English. Yeah why hire an English actor to do an American accent in a world not set on earth where accents aren't relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dAVe80 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Just home from seeing it. Was speechless for a good 10 mins after the film. JJ smashed it for me. Totally wonderful, and made me feel 5 years old again. On Kylo Ren... Spoiler I think his weakness comes from his inner conflict. He still hasn't totally turned to the dark side, and as such makes him less powerful. On Rey... Spoiler So she's Luke's daughter, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Loved it, everything was perfect imo, can't fault it and to do so would be a very miserly thing to do. Daisy Ridley grew into rey well and I loved her character. Finn was good but the weakest imo if were talking over acting but I still loved him. As for Kylo Ren, he is awesome. He is obviously weak for a reason, he isn't the overall big bad and is my favourite character from the film because he isn't the menacing all conquering clichéd bad guy. He is the aspiring and powerful pretender who hasn't quite shook his past and we don't quite know for certain which path he is headed on yet even though events in this one try to strongly sway us to decide in a certain direction. I loved Adam Driver, he was perfectly cast as Ren and did splendidly although he reminded me of Edd China from wheeler dealers It borrowed here and there from its inspiration's while doing its own thing. Second best behind TESB. Go and see it!!!!!!! 10/10. Edited December 19, 2015 by Ingram85 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I absolutely loved it. It blows the prequels away, and stands up to the originals, absolutely. Really well cast, the characters were really well fleshed out and interesting. They played to the strengths of the returning cast members. I can't wait to see it again! Finn and Rey Spoiler It was an incredibly tall order for them to come in and be leads in such a massive film that would be the subject to endless scrutiny, but they were both absolutely fantastic. Well written, well acted, and they stand up to the original Luke, Han and Leia. The life in these characters compared to say, Anakin and Padme in Attack of the Clones is like chalk and cheese. On Kylo Ren Spoiler I've heard a bit about how he wasn't menacing enough, but I thought the characterisation of Kylo Ren was perfect. He's not supposed to be Vader, he's supposed to be a bit of a dork with parents who probably argued a lot and an unreliable father, so he looks to his granddad as his role model. The whole idea is that he's some dork kid trying to be Vader. He's not supposed to be particularly menacing, he's just a force prodigy and uses that to bully people. Killing Han helps to legitimise him as a nasty **** as well. We'll see how that translates into future films. I really hope it doesn't end up being a redemption story arc. On General Hux Spoiler I thought he was an odd choice at the start but he starts to make more sense when you see that Kylo Ren is also young and they are effectively two young mega-ambitious dudes one upping eachother. Also considering that all the best Empire strategists would have been killed in RotJ, so it makes sense that an ambitious younger guy has come through. Then the big speech brings him together nicely. Captain Phasma Spoiler Was a pointless and unnecessary character. And she just dropped the shields without a fight. Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Seriously everyone involved in episodes 1, 2 and 3 must be a little bit pissed off with how good this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 13 hours ago, jon_c said: One thing that has bugged me though, why does John Boyega do an American accent? If it's ok for Daisy Ridley to be English. They probably didn't want both of the starring newcomers to have English accents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 It had an awful lot of similarities to a New Hope: Begins on desert planet with small droid carrying important info. Droid picked up by someone with ability to channel the force. Meet old guy who's been around the block a few times Go to crazy bar with assortment of alien species Battle station commits planet destroying genocide Rescue mission aboard battle station Old guy killed off as plot device Aerial battle over battle station, control room very similar to that on Yavin Battle station gets blown up 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 18 hours ago, jon_c said: One thing that has bugged me though, why does John Boyega do an American accent? If it's ok for Daisy Ridley to be English. He was on Graham Norton's show last night and said he tried it with a British accent and it sounded stupid so JJ Abrams told him to switch to American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 It had an awful lot of similarities to a New Hope: Begins on desert planet with small droid carrying important info. Droid picked up by someone with ability to channel the force. Meet old guy who's been around the block a few times Go to crazy bar with assortment of alien species Battle station commits planet destroying genocide Rescue mission aboard battle station Old guy killed off as plot device Aerial battle over battle station, control room very similar to that on Yavin Battle station gets blown up Exactly. That's why it really seemed just like a new hope HD edition Which is no bad thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 On 12/18/2015 at 07:01, Czechlad said: Had some idiot spoil the movie for me. Just jumped in my online game and said what happened before I could mute my tv. I don't understand people. people just want to feel important when being a dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 3 hours ago, Wainy316 said: It had an awful lot of similarities to a New Hope: Hidden Content New Hope, is basically The Hidden Fortress anyway. I want star wars movies based on different Kurosawa. I would watch the shit out of star wars versions of yojimbo or seven samurai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) 11 hours ago, darrenm said: Exactly. That's why it really seemed just like Hidden Content Which is no bad thing I think it's actually the biggest criticism you could have, aside from Carrie Fisher's face being so botoxed she can barely speak proper like. The cynic in me also couldn't help but think about the Disney execs pushing for all those pretty pointless variants of stormtrooper, etc. which I'm sure are shoe horned in for toy ranges. Saw it earlier, it is good, it has more heart than any of the prequels of course, and has a whole bunch of moments that bring a massive smile to your face. The fact it has almost as many unanswered questions as an episode of Lost, I didn't really have a problem with, lots of story ripe for spin off movies, books, cartoons, novels, video games... I really liked seeing the middle aged men with their kids in there, all enjoying it tremendously. The lad of 9 or 10 next to me was literally on the edge of his seat for the whole of the last hour. Oh, and any "BUT NO DAMAGE" memes yet? That really made me laugh Edited December 19, 2015 by hogso 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) No spoilers I watched it Thursday night. Sounds a bit sad, but it's still sinking in! It needs another couple of views at least, there was a lot going on and I was often just spazzin out, in a state of fanboy euphoria. Impossible to say where it ranks amongst the others on one view alone, other than to say I bet you will be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks it isn't an improvement on the prequels. JJ Abrams deserves immense credit for what he's achieved here. He's provided full service to the fans, whilst creating a film that in part is a reboot for a new gen, but also a sequel for us oldies! The old and the new weaved together seamlessly. As a film it wasn't perfect, there were a couple of misses here and there, but they were overshadowed by the overall magic and emotion of it all. Can't wait to see it again. Edited December 19, 2015 by wazzap24 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) phenomenally good fun I thought. Agree with most of what's been said so far Spoiler Poor Chewie! And the masked woman baddy seemed to be a bit of a forced character really. Unless she has a bigger role in the next film ( oh hang she's probably dead actually, nvm ) all the main cast were superb, and the nods to the old films worked really well. The physicality of the locations felt genuinely real, and the BBA droid was hilarious. So much perosnality conveyed through beeps and movements. Can't wait for the second film! Edited December 19, 2015 by Rodders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Saw this tonight, thought it was brilliant. How do I add the spoiler thing on a mobile device? Edited December 19, 2015 by Tayls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Whichever characters you take to, just remember that General Hux is one of us, a poor suffering Villa fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted December 20, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2015 4 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Whichever characters you take to, just remember that General Hux is one of us, a poor suffering Villa fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 So many Force references in football commentary this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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