Eames Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 There is no way ANY 3 year old should be taken to ANY 12A film. If you look at the BBFC guidelines about 12A they basically say - "we think noone under 12 should see this, but we recognise that parents know their own children better than us and so feel a degree of flexibility is appropriate." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2015 42 minutes ago, darrenm said: Actually, I revise my opinion of 5. It was pretty good. I am watching the latest remastered versions though. I reckon everything that Lucas has added in has made them worse. I do think that if you compare them to a modern version such as Guardians of the Galaxy, they don't compare well. It's actually offended me that you've tried to say GotG is better than Star Wars. I'm not even that much of a Star Wars fan. That's like saying Layer Cake is better than the Godfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'm a Star Wars fan but I didn't see them all until after I watched LOTR. I've always argued that I think LOTR is a much better trilogy. However, I appreciate how good Star Wars must've been at the time it came out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 well I watched 4 the other night, and it was fine, but not spectacular. Wouldn't compare well to GOTG for me. I think Empire and Return are better films than New Hope though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I have jettisoned my cynicism and I'm looking forward to this now. I hope it's not like The Hobbit where I realised, ten minutes in, that I'd made a terrible mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Not watched a single Star Wars movie, is that bad? Never really took an interest to it tbh, but with all this hype I may just watch this whenever (free for me haha suckers!). What order would be best to watch the other movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well, probably the order they were released, i.e. 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3. However, I saw a thing the other week which suggested watching 4 and 5 first, and then after the big revelation at the end of 5, watch 1, 2 and 3 for Vader's backstory and then end with 6. Not sure if I agree with that though. I'd just go with the normal order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 13 minutes ago, Ginko said: Well, probably the order they were released, i.e. 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3. However, I saw a thing the other week which suggested watching 4 and 5 first, and then after the big revelation at the end of 5, watch 1, 2 and 3 for Vader's backstory and then end with 6. Not sure if I agree with that though. I'd just go with the normal order. I've read the popular opinion is, to watch 4, 5, watch 2 and 3 as a flash back, then 6, and not bother at all with 1, as it adds nothing to the story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted December 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'm not really into Star Wars but I thought this was interesting. Guardian posted their original review of the first film, 38 years ago: Quote 'Enormous and exhilarating fun': the Guardian's original Star Wars review Star Wars: The Force Awakens is among the most hotly-anticipated films in history. Here’s how the Guardian reviewed the first film 38 years ago “I have wrought my simple plan If I give some hour of joy To the boy who’s half a man Or the man who’s half a boy.” Thus saith Arthur Conan Doyle in his preface to The Lost World, and thus quoteth Bob Dingilian, Executive Director of National Publicity, 20th Century Fox Film Corporation as a preface to his notes for Star Wars (Dominion and Odeon, Leicester Square, U). And I must say, it about sums up the picture, except that it gives some two hours of joy, and will probably also be appreciated by girls who are half women and women who are half girls too. Bob, you’re a genius. Quite whether George Lucas, of American Graffiti fame, is also a genius is another matter. Viewed dispassionately - and of course that’s desperately difficult at this point in time - Star Wars is not an improvement on Mr Lucas’ previous work, except in box-office terms. It isn’t the best film of the year, it isn’t the best science fiction ever to be translated to the screen, it isn’t a number of other things either that sweating critics have tried to turn it into when faced with finding some plausible explanation for its huge and slightly sinister success considering a contracting market. But it is, on the other hand, enormous and exhilarating fun for those who are prepared to settle down in their seats and let it all wash over them. Which, I firmly believe, with the extra benefit of hindsight, is more or less exactly what the vast majority of the cinema-going public want just now. Last year it was Jaws, which gave us more dangerous frissons, and not long before that it was The Exorcist, with enough green slime to give us all nightmares. Inevitably 1977 was going to be the year of safer pleasures. Star Wars, let me tell you, wasn’t given its U certificate for nothing. The only exclamation the producers want from you is “Wow!” So how do they get it? Well, they start by saying “A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away,” which really means “Don’t worry, it’s only a fairy story.” And then they tell us a tale about a pretty Princess (Carrie Fisher) who gets kidnapped by wicked chaps who want to control the galaxies, with whom a pretty ordinary bloke, or ordinary pretty bloke (Mark Hamill) falls head over ski-boots in love. Then there’s this nice old retired knight (lucky old Alec Guinness with two per cent of the financial action) who teaches our hero to “stretch out with your feelings” and observe the Force of Good pulsing in his otherwise bloodless veins. Added to that, there are two funny (no, quite funny) robots, See Threepio (Anthony Daniels) and Artoo-Detoo (Kenny Baker), an ace pilot (Harrison Ford) who represents our disbelief by proving a sceptic, an apeman or “walking carpet” (Peter Mayhew) who looks as if he’s come straight out of a neolithic pantomime, and an assortment of villains so unterrifying that it looks as if you’d only have to pinch them to produce a fit of giggles (but who would dare do any such thing to Peter Cushing?). Finally ladies and gentlemen (or should I say boys and girls?) there are the special effects. And now I want you all to rise from your seats and salute since they were all Made in Britain. I can’t say there’s anything very new around in this direction, compared, say, to Kubrick’s 2001. But Star Trek it is not. Besides, Lucas has been clever enough not to make the mistake of explaining everything. All the hardware is taken for granted by the characters, which means we’ll wonder at it the more. Let us not forget either the very traditional music score from John Williams, which eschews electronic blops and bleeps in favour of martial airs and graces, just to keep us in touch with some kind of reality. But I haven’t mentioned the film’s chief sleight of hand, which is that (unlike most super popular movies) it makes itself into something fashionable enough to prevent buffs feeling like schlocks when they join the queues. This is done, quite deliberately, by looking back into the past rather than forward into the future. Every conceivable convention of the genre is shamelessly brandished rather than concealed. Star Wars, as Lucas himself has remarked, seeks to generate a “high level of fantasy.” And you can’t do that nowadays by blowing the mind without suitable references. These are legion - there is a space-age Western saloon, there’s swashbuckling with laser beams, there’s slapstick which reminds one of Laurel and Hardy and sentiment that reeks of the Wizard of Oz. There are lines which are almost, if not quite, taken from old movies and direct allusions whipped from everything from The Searchers to The Triumph of the Will. It’s an incredibly knowing movie. But the filching is so affectionate that you can’t resent it. Whatever else you think about Star Wars, you can’t call it the height of originality. The entirely mindless could go and see it with pleasure. But it plays enough games to satisfy the most sophisticated. It opens on Boxing Day, by the way, so don’t all rush at once. And Force, friends, Force. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 16 hours ago, villarule123 said: Still undecided whether to take my 3 year old daughter. She's obsessed with the films but I get the feeling this will be a little too dark for her. What's the rating? I really, really wouldn't take a 3 year old to a 12A. I know she's excited, but I just don't think that's very responsible. There will be tension and peril; it will be loud and uncomfortable at times. Just leave her with a babysitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) I was allowed to watch Aliens, Robocop and Terminator 2 when I was about 7 or 8, but not Total Recall. Where's the consistency in that? Edited December 16, 2015 by Wainy316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Just now, Wainy316 said: I was allowed to watch Aliens, Robocop and Terminator 2 when I was about 6, but not Total Recall. Where's the consistency in that? It'll be the three tits, mate. They would have blew your mind, aged 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I was allowed to watch Aliens, Robocop and Terminator 2 when I was about 6, but not Total Recall. Where's the consistency in that? It'll be the three tits, mate. They would have blew your mind, aged 6. I revised it to 7 or 8 by thinking of the release dates but I actually think it is the bewbs. It's absolutely absurd how gratuitous violence (being nasty to people) is considered more acceptable than a bit of sex (being nice to people) or bewbage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 9 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: I revised it to 7 or 8 by thinking of the release dates but I actually think it is the bewbs. It's absolutely absurd how gratuitous violence (being nasty to people) is considered more acceptable than a bit of sex (being nice to people) or bewbage. I completely agree. Think that's a very ****-up aspect of our society actually. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 5 hours ago, ismail-villa said: Not watched a single Star Wars movie, is that bad? Never really took an interest to it tbh, but with all this hype I may just watch this whenever (free for me haha suckers!). What order would be best to watch the other movies? Machete Order - 4,5, 2, 3, 6. http://www.t3.com/features/the-star-wars-machete-order-explained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 So not bother with 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Tbh I'll watch it when the excitement dies down, honestly hate going to watch a movie when it's packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Good movie, some forced acting at times but overall it was shot very well - some missing scenes from trailers also which let me down somewhat. Major plot spoiler which I will not mention also felt forced IMO. Gonna watch it again tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted December 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2015 Where did you see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted December 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2015 Time to abandon thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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