fightoffyour Posted December 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2018 Christ what a shit show. And I mean the state of the club, not the program. The program is great. I went in thinking I'd have a bit of a laugh at their demise, which happens at the beginning when it's like a football version of The Office, and ended up feeling sympathy for their fans and thinking how easily that could've been us. They do deserve better. Well, Championship at least 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted December 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2018 Watching it now. For all of the negatives, fair play to Jonny Williams for letting us into the mental health and psychological side of football. He could have shied away and kept that stuff private but he didn't. Decent player too. Reminds me of a less talented Jack. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Got to be the best football documentary ever. brilliant stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Finished this yesterday. Really good watch. The sheer incompetence of it all is shocking, but I’m tempted to say I was most surprised by how decent Chris Coleman, John O’Shea and, dare I say, Lee Cattermole came across. Talked to a Sunderland fan at work about it. He was mostly just shaking his head in disbelief, but was also sincerely happy that the incompetence of the previous regime had been exposed. As others have said, as a Villa fan, the story is very, very relatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 8 hours ago, Michelsen said: Finished this yesterday. Really good watch. The sheer incompetence of it all is shocking, but I’m tempted to say I was most surprised by how decent Chris Coleman, John O’Shea and, dare I say, Lee Cattermole came across. Talked to a Sunderland fan at work about it. He was mostly just shaking his head in disbelief, but was also sincerely happy that the incompetence of the previous regime had been exposed. As others have said, as a Villa fan, the story is very, very relatable. Anyone can talk a good game, by all accounts Cattermole is one of the biggest pissheads going -along with Adam Johnson, Danny Graham, Bardsley etc. Even Gibson talked a good game but didn't stop him having the physique of a 50 year old bricklayer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted December 23, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 Coleman comes across particularly well. Just seems like a genuinely nice bloke. I'm not sure he's that good of a manager when you get right down to it, but as a man he seems unusually down to earth and, well, nice. I can't imagine there's many at the sharp end of the football industry who would bother to text the tea lady after they'd been sacked to say he appreciated and would miss them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 On 23/12/2018 at 20:32, Chindie said: Coleman comes across particularly well. Just seems like a genuinely nice bloke. I'm not sure he's that good of a manager when you get right down to it, but as a man he seems unusually down to earth and, well, nice. I can't imagine there's many at the sharp end of the football industry who would bother to text the tea lady after they'd been sacked to say he appreciated and would miss them. Really was a genuinely class touch that, wasn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 26, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2018 Yeah Coleman comes across very well. I think it kind of hides how bad a job he did though. The state of the club contributes a lot to how badly they did, but I don’t think it was an impossible job when Coleman came in. But yeah he seems like a genuinely good bloke. Had no idea he was married to Charlotte Jackson either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah Coleman comes across very well. I think it kind of hides how bad a job he did though. The state of the club contributes a lot to how badly they did, but I don’t think it was an impossible job when Coleman came in. But yeah he seems like a genuinely good bloke. Had no idea he was married to Charlotte Jackson either! Don't think he is . . . think the caption introduced her as his partner IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 26, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Don't think he is . . . think the caption introduced her as his partner IIRC. Nope it introduces her as Charlotte Jackson-Coleman IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) They got over 46k today which is great going. Fair play to their fans who have gone through as much if not more crap than we have over last few years. Edited December 26, 2018 by markavfc40 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Haven't watched this latest series but in the 90s BBC actually did a behind the scenes series on them aswell. Maybe not quite as good but brings a new audience to Peter Reid's colourful half time team talks anyway. Here's the first one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbPKFiKE4-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah Coleman comes across very well. I think it kind of hides how bad a job he did though. The state of the club contributes a lot to how badly they did, but I don’t think it was an impossible job when Coleman came in. But yeah he seems like a genuinely good bloke. Had no idea he was married to Charlotte Jackson either! Yes I dont think Coleman is a particularly good manager. he was responsible for loosing his best striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes I dont think Coleman is a particularly good manager. he was responsible for loosing his best striker. Grabban came across as a bit of a diva and facts show he was bluffing to get out. Grabban came off once early and not injured and his replacement scored the winner. 73 minutes is not early either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Stevo985 said: But yeah he seems like a genuinely good bloke. Had no idea he was married to Charlotte Jackson either! Apparently he is a serial adulterer. His ex wife said he cheated on her over 10 times and eventually kicked her and their 4 children out of their home. Obviously that's just one side but he sounds like a prick... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Grabban came across as a bit of a diva and facts show he was bluffing to get out. Grabban came off once early and not injured and his replacement scored the winner. 73 minutes is not early either He's a word removed, the ultimate mercenary, could tell that from his pathetic, passionless display for us in the play off final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I think if I was Grabban's agent, I'd be thinking he came off looking like an irreplaceable striker but a bit of a personal bell-piece from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Xela said: Apparently he is a serial adulterer. His ex wife said he cheated on her over 10 times and eventually kicked her and their 4 children out of their home. Obviously that's just one side but he sounds like a prick... Every one of my exes will tell you I'm the biggest asshole in the world and most will tell you some BS about me cheating on her, too. None of it is true... Well, at least the cheating part. haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 27, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2018 Thought Bain comes across quite well in this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Just finished watching this. Very interesting and insightful. The rot had set with Sunderland as it had with us. I felt it gave a good portrayal of those involved with a few notable exceptions (Grabban, Rodwell- did he even play?) Down to earth club and fans. Wish them well this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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