sne Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Ashley is a girls name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 29, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 29, 2016 3 hours ago, PaulC said: Wasn't it the 2006 game against Man City when Cahill and Ridgewell played together and they ripped us apart, Oneill decided he needed that Cahill and Ridgewell wern't up to it. Once upon a time we bought Martin Laursen. Laursen then got injured. It looked for a long time like he was going to stay injured, so we needed another CB. We bought Zat Knight. Then Laursen became available again. Now we have a surplus of CBs but Zat had come in for a relatively decent sum. Bolton asked for Cahill who was still a yoof at this stage. They offered £5m and we snapped their hands off. We then had to endure Zat Knight instead of watching Cahill bloom. Oh well, at least we got to enjoy Laursen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I thought Zat Knight wasn't that bad for us, and a bargain compared to a lot of MON's signings. Still I'd rather Cahill stayed. I think Westwood would be a great signing for a promoted team but I think any manager that takes us over will want to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 3 hours ago, BOF said: Once upon a time we bought Mrtin Laursen. Laursen then got injured. It looked for a long time like he was going to stay injured, so we needed another CB. We bought Zat Knight. Then Laursen became available again. Now we have a surplus of CBs but Zat had come in for a relatively decent sum. Bolton asked for Cahill who was still a yoof at this stage. They offered £5m and we snapped their hands off. We then had to endure Zat Knight instead of watching Cahill bloom. Oh well, at least we got to enjoy Laursen. People wanted MON sacked when he kept getting higher points total each year. I doubt many would have had the patience to watch Cahil bloom under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 3 hours ago, sne said: Ashley is a girls name. I take offence sir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, AshVilla said: I take offence sir Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 29, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 29, 2016 People wanted MON sacked when he kept getting higher points total each year. I doubt many would have had the patience to watch Cahil bloom under him. This is the Cahill who scored THAT goal and the one many fans were furious when he left. We'll disagree on that one so, although I don't doubt there's a certain type of fan too stupid to see what's staring them in the face at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 4 hours ago, BOF said: This is the Cahill who scored THAT goal and the one many fans were furious when he left. We'll disagree on that one so, although I don't doubt there's a certain type of fan too stupid to see what's staring them in the face at the time. Like Lambert being a good manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 13 hours ago, BOF said: Once upon a time we bought Martin Laursen. Laursen then got injured. It looked for a long time like he was going to stay injured, so we needed another CB. We bought Zat Knight. Then Laursen became available again. Now we have a surplus of CBs but Zat had come in for a relatively decent sum. Bolton asked for Cahill who was still a yoof at this stage. They offered £5m and we snapped their hands off. We then had to endure Zat Knight instead of watching Cahill bloom. Oh well, at least we got to enjoy Laursen. Laursen got fit near the end of 2006/07 season and we still got rid of Cahill for Davies. Zat Knight was brought in regardless and did a good job when called upon. We have had a lot worse defenders this season than Zat before comparing against others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 30, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2016 In the post above, Zat was being compared with Cahill but I think you knew that. Your username just got in the way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, BOF said: In the post above, Zat was being compared with Cahill but I think you knew that. Your username just got in the way yeah but Davies was bought to replace Cahill in squad not Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadoftrinity Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Zatman said: yeah but Davies was bought to replace Cahill in squad not Knight It was a mistake to sell Cahil but he is still average at best and shows how poor England are at the back that he is even in he squad let alone first choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Oh what we would not give to have average CB's... Edit: All this talk about Cahill, poor Westwood i nowhere to be found even in his own thread on VT. Fitting I guess... Edited April 30, 2016 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Cahill wasn't ready for our 1st team when he was sold, bags of potential and a good squad player, but not a 1st choice defender for a team pushing for the CL, he'd been on loan a few times and wouldn't go again IIRC, a "play me or sell me" deal, so we sold him for the good of his career, I don't think he'd be the defender he is today if he'd stayed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I am still in shock he scored two goals last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 18 hours ago, BOF said: This is the Cahill who scored THAT goal and the one many fans were furious when he left. We'll disagree on that one so, although I don't doubt there's a certain type of fan too stupid to see what's staring them in the face at the time. Cahil had great moments but at that age I don't think he was good enough to play regular for a team challenging for top 4. That's why he ended up at Bolton instead of a top club. Fans were furious, but I'd imagine as like I say, they wanted him sacked for finishing 6th, they'd have been furious had we finished lower while waiting for Cahil to bloom. Not sure what your last point is on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 He was good enough. O'neill just couldn't see it. Most of the fans could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: I am still in shock he scored two goals last week. hat trick today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I don't recall any fans being happy at the sale of Cahill, we all knew Zat Knight wasn't better than him even though Cahill was still a youth player. Davies cost twice as much and was a similar age. In my mind its the most ridiculous thing MON did - along with buying Heskey when we were crying out for a proper striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 hour ago, meregreen said: He was good enough. O'neill just couldn't see it. Most of the fans could. Yet ended up at Bolton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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