a m ole Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Did one good pass in the game. Completely overrated, didn't do his job as a defensive midfielder.He has a pass on him, but for me is far too cautious.Half of our problems are because we don't compete for the ball higher up the pitch enough.Westwood would get on better if we had Sanchez in the midfield, we lack a physical presence. Compare Barry to Westwood today, and that is what we lack. Barry had McCarthy absolutely everywhere helping him out, I didn't see the same energy from Richardson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Did one good pass in the game. Completely overrated, didn't do his job as a defensive midfielder.He has a pass on him, but for me is far too cautious.Half of our problems are because we don't compete for the ball higher up the pitch enough.Westwood would get on better if we had Sanchez in the midfield, we lack a physical presence. Compare Barry to Westwood today, and that is what we lack. Barry had McCarthy absolutely everywhere helping him out, I didn't see the same energy from Richardson. Nope, Westy was alone and coped well. Most of hiss passes went left yo Cissokho today, or ahead to Cleverley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Pretty anonymous today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Without Delph shown up to be the utterly average player he is unfortunately. When it comes down to the tough games he doesn't impact them nearly enough, defensively or offensively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Did one good pass in the game. Completely overrated, didn't do his job as a defensive midfielder.He has a pass on him, but for me is far too cautious.Half of our problems are because we don't compete for the ball higher up the pitch enough.Westwood would get on better if we had Sanchez in the midfield, we lack a physical presence. Compare Barry to Westwood today, and that is what we lack. yet Gareth Barry when he was Westwood age didnt have the same midfield dominance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Did one good pass in the game. Completely overrated, didn't do his job as a defensive midfielder.He has a pass on him, but for me is far too cautious.Half of our problems are because we don't compete for the ball higher up the pitch enough.Westwood would get on better if we had Sanchez in the midfield, we lack a physical presence. Compare Barry to Westwood today, and that is what we lack. yet Gareth Barry when he was Westwood age didnt have the same midfield dominance No but Gareth was getting assists and regularily chipping in with goals. I don't want to be the negative one, but it is games like that, and it happens way too much where I really wonder what Westwood brings to the team. In a good team, when we are playing well, he is a tidy player to have, but we need more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 but he was also playing left midfield at the time and had no impact on some games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ha yes I remember watching Barry "sprint" down the left wing when sat in the Holte. You've never seen arms and legs move faster but Gareth Bale he wasn't !!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 Barry is much better defending than Westwood and has better positinal sense when defending so despite his lack of pace he is in the right place when needed as opposed to Westwood who is reacting to the situation.Barry also has ability to hold onto the ball and slow things down if needed, he is hard to push off the ball and wins free kicks this way.In terms of when playing for Villa , Barry has Young and Gabby hogging the wings always giving him an outball , particularly effective with Ashley Young on the left. IMO Westwood in a midfield with Cleverly and Delph is not going to be effective there is neither the goal threat ,creativity or defensive ability there to make it work.With the players we have in a 3 man midfield with them playing well it would be Sanchez Cleverly/Westwood Delph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Certainly wish we had Barry playing in place of Westwood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 10 years older though! Barry was hugely talented when we signed him as a youngster from Brighton and he when he first broke into the side at 16/17 I thought wow this kid can play but I don't think he was that highly rated by villa fans when he first played in central midfield under Taylor. It wasn't until Oneill that we started seeing the best of him. Not sure Westwood will ever be as good but he has time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bunnski Posted October 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2014 Great player who is playing back too deep to properly influence games. I still see all the good work he does and how he starts a lot of our attacks with his quick thinking and accurate passes. His touch is the best at the club and he should be further up the pitch so he can help us hold onto possession. I'd like to see The Rock play DMF or even have Cleverley be the deepest sitting midfielder as I thought he did well when tackling and harrying Everton's players on Saturday. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) Did one good pass in the game. Completely overrated, didn't do his job as a defensive midfielder.He has a pass on him, but for me is far too cautious.Half of our problems are because we don't compete for the ball higher up the pitch enough.Westwood would get on better if we had Sanchez in the midfield, we lack a physical presence. Compare Barry to Westwood today, and that is what we lack. yet Gareth Barry when he was Westwood age didnt have the same midfield dominance Oh please! Westwood has never and will never be a dominant midfield player, nor has he ever been better than Barry at anytime in his career. Barry was called up to an England squad at 18 if I remember rightly. Westwood is one of the reasons why we have the poorest midfields in our history. Don't believe the Villa PR hype. He's crap. Edited October 20, 2014 by avfc1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Did one good pass in the game. Completely overrated, didn't do his job as a defensive midfielder.He has a pass on him, but for me is far too cautious.Half of our problems are because we don't compete for the ball higher up the pitch enough.Westwood would get on better if we had Sanchez in the midfield, we lack a physical presence. Compare Barry to Westwood today, and that is what we lack. yet Gareth Barry when he was Westwood age didnt have the same midfield dominance Oh please! Westwood has never and will never be a dominant midfield player, nor has he ever been better than Barry at anytime in his career. Barry was called up to an England squad at 18 if I remember rightly. Westwood is one of the reasons why we have the poorest midfields in our history. Don't believe the Villa PR hype. He's crap. I think Zat means that when Barry was Westwood's age, he(Barry) did not have the same midfield dominance as he(Barry) now has. Meaning, presumably, that Westwood has time to get better. I assume this is what he means, as I do not think anyone would claim that Westwood has `midfield dominance'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) Doesn't the fabled 'ticking over' = midfield dominance? Edited October 20, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Did one good pass in the game. Completely overrated, didn't do his job as a defensive midfielder.He has a pass on him, but for me is far too cautious.Half of our problems are because we don't compete for the ball higher up the pitch enough.Westwood would get on better if we had Sanchez in the midfield, we lack a physical presence. Compare Barry to Westwood today, and that is what we lack. yet Gareth Barry when he was Westwood age didnt have the same midfield dominance Oh please! Westwood has never and will never be a dominant midfield player, nor has he ever been better than Barry at anytime in his career. Barry was called up to an England squad at 18 if I remember rightly. Westwood is one of the reasons why we have the poorest midfields in our history. Don't believe the Villa PR hype. He's crap. I think Zat means that when Barry was Westwood's age, he(Barry) did not have the same midfield dominance as he(Barry) now has. Meaning, presumably, that Westwood has time to get better. I assume this is what he means, as I do not think anyone would claim that Westwood has `midfield dominance'. Fair enough. I'm just sick of the plaudits Westwood seems to get for churning out substandard performances week in week out. I've been pretty consistent with my view that he is a lower league player completely out of his depth in the PL. I look forward to the day when Lerner sells up to someone who gives a damn about the club and rids the club of the players who aren't fit to wear the colours. It isn't rocket science to suggest that the reason we're a poor team is because we have a squad packed out with poor players. The only thing Villa and Lerner have been good at over the last 5 years is the churning out of hype and PR in an attempt to fool the fans into thinking different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 What I don't get with Westwood, is that into his third season a prem dm and he still doesn't pick up good defence positions. You don't have to be a midfield powerhouse but surely with all the technology around he can study videos of dm positions? He can then learn from those and try to adapt his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 He isn't a DM and will never be one, all our CM options are very weak which is why Sanchez needs to start now that Delph is out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 He isn't a DM and will never be one, all our CM options are very weak which is why Sanchez needs to start now that Delph is out. But sadly Sanchez doesn't look the player we believed he would be when he signed. It's just a bloody mess, just like the previous 4 seasons before this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I agree I think its time Sanchez starts and Richardson drops to the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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