Valhalla Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Who did we sell to buy Holman or kea or lowton ? I think we still have that leftover from getting rid of habib beye, he was on 7 million a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Hang on , we are getting rid of a player most wanted out as not good enough and a bad apple and replacing with a better player who the manager wants and now this is a negative? Or people ar putting a negative spin on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 have no doubts this will happen but expect it to be announced tomorrow prior to the away match with Peterboro' Hopefully we'll see Ooh Aah Ronny Vlaar in action tomorrow night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 31, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2012 Hang on , we are getting rid of a player most wanted out as not good enough and a bad apple and replacing with a better player who the manager wants and now this is a negative? Or people ar putting a negative spin on it? I don't think people are putting a negative spin on it mate and to be honest mate you've not all that long ago moved out of your greenhouse so its a little early to be picking up stones I think people are just trying to comprehend why the Vlaar deal continues to be so drawn out. The conclusions people are reaching are totally understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Sell to buy.... It is hard to not conclude that Vlaar's arrival is directly linked with Collins' departure. Are we getting 3.2m (or whatever we are paying for Vlaar) for Collins? If so...... @ West Ham. However I dont think we are so I don't think its strictly sell to buy. For me this is just maintaining a manageable wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 31, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2012 Are we getting 3.2m (or whatever we are paying for Vlaar) for Collins? If so...... @ West Ham. However I dont think we are so I don't think its strictly sell to buy. For me this is just maintaining a manageable wage bill. I believe its £3m for Vlaar and around £2m for Collins which is great business. I agree though I think it is about the wages as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 No, but we have to be realistic and accept that this is a budget squad that Lambert and Lerner is putting together, and it is a fair acessment that Lerner is keeping a close eye on the dealings so the cost doesn't spiral out of hand again. Maybee not sell to buy, but something along those lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 There does seem to be some people on here cant fathom, why having reduced the wage bill considerably, we cant go and spend willy nilly! I for one cant understand why anyone wouldnt be able to see/understand what is clearly happening. And thank the lord it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 it's not about sell to buy in the old sense, as i get the impression we have money to spend so we don't need to raise funds, it's more about keeping the wage bill down and financial fair play rules. Gone are the days of bloated reserve teams and squad players who never play (like in the good old MON days). Every player has to contribute, every body has to count, every pay check has to matter. wages cost more now than transfer fees which is a massive problem. i really hope we buy another striker as we have never replaced Carew and Heskey was dead wood for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 31, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2012 I'm pleased with how we're conducting our business now. Randy should have done it since day one. If anyone does think this is a negative thing then I think that's a bit silly really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Gone are the days of bloated reserve teams and squad players who never play (like in the good old MON days). Funnily enough I see that the reserve league has actually been scrapped this season. It's now an u21 competition with 3 older players permitted. Even more reason to make sure that your squad isn't too bloated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy1 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 We're now seeing the really big wages only going to the very cream at the richest clubs. The disparity within the Premier League between the top earners and the bottom has never been wider. It is now more difficult for average players to command more than around £20k a week. Contracts now 3 years not 5 or 6. Squad sizes being squeezed too. The gravy train is not quite over as the likes of QPR, Stoke and Wet Spam seem willing to keep trying to punch above their weight but it can't last. They will come unstuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 still can't believe WHU are buying Collins back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyp_avfc Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Anyone got any news on this as I've been out since 7.... Should we expect him with the shirt and full confirmation tomorow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Only if Collins goes seems the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyp_avfc Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Fair play Ulver hope it gets confirmed tomorow i'm getting a little worried that we wont get him :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makouns-knitwear Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ronnie Vlaar is a big Dutch star Take him on, you won't get far Try a little trick he'll make you look a prick Big bad Ron Vlaar... Slightly stolen from the old Jaap Stam song but equally as bad, John Lennon rest easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Find it absurd for a premier league club to wait for a sale before announcing a new signing. So what if collins does not go through? Do we tell vlaar to go back home? Very odd. Although I'm sure there's a more logical explanation for this delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Don't care about the sell to buy thing...does it really matter?! If it strictly was, we would'nt have signed Lowton without Hutton leaving first or KAM without say a Delph or Makoun leaving. I believe you need International clearence before new signings can start playing, even in friendlies so would imagine he's more likely to play at Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker1234 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I'm pleased with how we're conducting our business now. Randy should have done it since day one. If anyone does think this is a negative thing then I think that's a bit silly really. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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