Zatman Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 dont remember 1 world class match he had last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Maybe he means the MON definition of world-class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 dont remember 1 world class match he had last season West Ham away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post floody555 Posted June 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2015 I can't believe people are questioning Guzan for season after season he has easily won us games and probably kept us up, Yeah OK when he got dropped I actually thought he needed that as he was looking a little nervy but that is understandable with the way our season was going. But I honestly think he is our best Keeper and the drop will only make him better, I mean look at the Joe hart situation no doubt he's world class but he was making mistakes so he gets dropped for that Giraffe Pantilimon and now look at Hart when he came back in and last season he was unreal. A bit of keepers union here but when people say 'oh I think he could of got that' it really annoys me as its easier said than done specially when things are point blank doesn't matter if its straight at you the bloody ball has been and gone before you can react. UTV SOTC 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I love the Guz myself, however in some way I like the no nonsense approach Sherwood is taking across all positions, no one should feel safe to drop the standard. My only fear is that he will go too far and it will have an adverse effect re: Morale etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted June 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2015 I love the Guz myself, however in some way I like the no nonsense approach Sherwood is taking across all positions, no one should feel safe to drop the standard. My only fear is that he will go too far and it will have an adverse effect re: Morale etc. Would it be too easy to call those who lose morale after being dropped "losers"? Perhaps that is what Sherwood was referring to when he mentioned we had too many losers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 dont remember 1 world class match he had last season West Ham away Not world class but he was excellent last 20 minutes claiming every cross and dominating the box when we went down to 10 men v Man. United. I do think his standards started slipping from xmas though as we started losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I feel for the guy, but when you consistently flirt with relegation.....a ruthless approach is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Czechlad Posted June 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2015 So Benteke also has to go. Ruthless approach and all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 He's not perfect, no keeper is. But there are few players that can come out of last season with any credit to their name. Even De Gea who is the flavour of the month and going to Madrid has been duff on a number of occasions. Guzan has done enough to deserve more respect than he seems to be getting on here. I say again that I don't understand that as soon as player gets dropped almost all their good form and good work gets forgotten and the hate comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Keepers eh, what you gonna do...Begovic is arguably better but Guzany is good however his distribution sucks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 The goalie position is the one of the last positions that need strenghening at the moment. I got a lot of time for Guzan, top guy and a model professional. Great shot stopper as well. All he needs is to work on distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) dont remember 1 world class match he had last seasonI'm not really sure what "world class" means but it's hard to see how any Villa player in any game we played least season could have been anywhere near the sort of standard that is implied by those words.Guzan just before he was dropped had a few shockers. Edited June 25, 2015 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 In my opinion Grealish is a great player, and is likely to improve, If however there was a chance of getting Di Maria I would not hesitate replacing Grealish. Same for our very decent keeper. What is wrong in getting a better one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Every player is replaceable, or more accurately, can be improved on. However, if you listed our squad in order of their value to Villa, then I'd say Delph comes top, followed by Guzan. Benteke wants out and is worth a lot so his sale at least makes some sense for the improvement of the squad as a whole. Other players are a mixture of good, average and poor but are more easily replaceable than a keeper. If the intention is to improve every position this summer then fine, replace him. But we more urgently need defenders, midfielders and strikers. Hell even more desperately need squad depth than a new keeper. So if improving on Guzan makes any of those less possible it's simply not worth doing. Improving on Richardson, Hutton, departed Lowton and soon gone Vlaar is VITAL (1 done in Richards) Improving on departed Cleverley, Sanchez, N'Zogbia is VITAL (no replacements yet) Improving on departed Bent, Weimann and not goid enough to lead Gabby is VITAL (almost bare bones) Improving on at least a very adequate keeper (being unkind) is a LUXURY Think it's frankly ridiculous this is being discussed unless we've money to replace starting XI. And that's ignoring fact he was praised beyond belief most of his time as number 1 and has perhaps had even just one poorer season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I feel for the guy, but when you consistently flirt with relegation.....a ruthless approach is required. We were relegated with Spink. He was still one of the best keepers around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) In my opinion Grealish is a great player, and is likely to improve, If however there was a chance of getting Di Maria I would not hesitate replacing Grealish. Same for our very decent keeper. What is wrong in getting a better one? Because it's spending money on a position where we don't need to spend money. Think about it, let's say we do sign Begovic. Even if you rate Begovic higher than Guzan, I think most of us can agree the difference in their abilities is pretty small. So we're spending up to £10 million for a slight improvement in goalkeeper. I don't see how anyone can not see that as a waste of money. If we've got bucket loads of cash then fair enough. But, whilst I don't know our transfer budget, I can't imagine it's much more than £20-25m (excluding sales). That's a huge chunk of our transfer budget on a very low priority position. Would you be happy to get Di Maria if he cost £60m and meant we had no money to sign anybody else and had to sell Benteke to fund it? It's not as simple as saying "Player A is better than Player B so there's no problem" Edited June 26, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The only way the Begovic deal makes sense to me is if we are selling Guzan for £10 million. Even then it only makes sense if Guzan wants out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Begovic is an excellent keeper, Guzan is a good one, there's a huge difference in the 2 and Begovic would make a huge difference to the side I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Begovic is an excellent keeper, Guzan is a good one, there's a huge difference in the 2 and Begovic would make a huge difference to the side I think. There really, really isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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