hippo Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, tezzaleed said: I cannot believe some of the posts in here. Sell Grealish at 21. We've seen what he can do. Ludicrous. At 21 he's got 5 or 6 years possibly more given his natural physique and style of game before he hits his peak. At the moment Bruce is playing him perfectly giving him cameos or the odd game. We've got some decent midfielders in that will hopefully take the focus and pressure off him. He has the potential if guided properly to be the best midfielder this club has had since Sid. Put it this way this club on its current state would not be able to attract the calibre of player he is likely to become let alone afford him. What about Brie ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaleed Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, hippo said: What about Brie ? No thanks I've just had some cheddar and ive used up all my baguette. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyavfc Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I think Grealish has actually been one of our better players this season, and whenever he is dropped it is fairly obvious we need him on the pitch. He's doing well in the championship which is a very physical, tough league. I think after his experience in this league. he will be brilliant in the prem and I'll be gutted if he leaves. He's one of our own. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I wouldn't be selling him but his attitude and on field performances would lead me to question whether or not he will ever make it. Not being a regular starter in a mid-table championship team at 21 years old isn't a good sign. Being a notorius party boy doesn't help either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 If he hasn't had a wake call by now, being linked to Boro certainly is one. Needs to get his head down and put in some performances. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Sure he is still only 21 but I just don't see it with him. Difference is someone like Albrighton worked hard on the pitch when he did play, Jack doesn't work hard enough for me. Either way I'm not too fussed if he stays or leaves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I wouldn't be that bothered if Cashed in. Yes he is a talent and is only 21 but we've been watching the lad for over 3 years now and can you honestly say we've seen improvement? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 We saw Jack at his best in that Liverpool semi final and he was superb on that day, but then the whole team were. Those are the circumstances in which he thrives, where his team is in the ascendency and the sole responsibility for making things happen is not on him. Ok, he did it vs. Wigan and very welcome it was too, but others of his age in other teams when called upon to be the main man have stepped up successfully on a consistent basis, from the get go. It definitely does hurt because he's one of our own and he has some serious talent, but it may be time. That said, I do believe he is a luxury we could now afford with quality support around him. Question is do we need him? The only thing which would definitely change my mind about keeping him is if he refused a move because Villa is in his heart and he promised to buckle down and fight for his place in the team. May be too late for that already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaleed Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, villa89 said: I wouldn't be selling him but his attitude and on field performances would lead me to question whether or not he will ever make it. Not being a regular starter in a mid-table championship team at 21 years old isn't a good sign. Being a notorius party boy doesn't help either. I think not being a regular yet is more about his physique than his talent. All people mature at different ages. He still has the physique of a kid. As he gets into his later 20s his metabolism will slow he'll become more robust and naturally gain a bit more self confidence. He might slow down a little but as long as hes nurtured he'll be a perfect ball playing midfielder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Just now, dudevillaisnice said: Sure he is still only 21 but I just don't see it with him. Difference is someone like Albrighton worked hard on the pitch when he did play, Jack doesn't work hard enough for me. Either way I'm not too fussed if he stays or leaves. Spot on. I think was thinking of Albrigjton as well. May not have had the ability that Grealish possesses but the effort was always there. Grealish is 21 and already seems to think he has some right to skip people without being tackled. More often then not he gets tackled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Spot on. I think was thinking of Albrigjton as well. May not have had the ability that Grealish possesses but the effort was always there. Grealish is 21 and already seems to think he has some right to skip people without being tackled. More often then not he gets tackled. More often than not he gets fouled. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted January 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2017 In pretty much every thread there are a few post stating that "I'd like to see how he performs with a proper midfield behind him before we get rid" Well, this is the player I'd like to see how performs with a proper midfield behind him before we get rid. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaleed Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Spot on. I think was thinking of Albrigjton as well. May not have had the ability that Grealish possesses but the effort was always there. Grealish is 21 and already seems to think he has some right to skip people without being tackled. More often then not he gets tackled. Rot. More often than not he gets past people but he does get tackled or fouled a lot. However at his age thats exactly what you want because every tackle and every foul is a lesson. It's when he stops trying to go past people for fear of being tackled is when you worry. Thats when he turns into westwood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted January 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2017 I wouldn’t let him go. In terms of natural ability then he has it in abundance. The other stuff you can coach into him and I think this season we have already seen an improvement in his play in terms of tracking back and getting stuck in. I don’t think he has been helped by the fact that he came into the squad two and half years ago at 18 at a time he was, and still is, developing as a player. During that time he has played under six different managers and christ knows how many different coaches. That is hardly going to help any young players development. Not surprisingly he is also yet to find his best position. He is nowhere near the finished article and there is plenty more to get out of him but the raw talent is there. I think it would be a mistake to let him go at this time and one we would regret. With the additions we have made in the middle of the park that can only be a good thing for Jack and hopefully that alongside some stability in the managerial and coaching staff and being in a team that will hopefully start to win a lot more games then the confidence garnered from that will see him flourish. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, tezzaleed said: I think not being a regular yet is more about his physique than his talent. All people mature at different ages. He still has the physique of a kid. As he gets into his later 20s his metabolism will slow he'll become more robust and naturally gain a bit more self confidence. He might slow down a little but as long as hes nurtured he'll be a perfect ball playing midfielder. Rhetorical question really but do you actually think he is that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 He doesn't do enough at the moment, he's one of those players we can't afford to have on the pitch incase he might have 1 minute in 90 where he does something. I saw a comment on here recently, a forum member said he felt that Jack getting fouled actually slowed our game down - which I also think is true. But I also think we would regret selling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaninireland Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 He has spent his career here, on the whole , playing with absolute crap. Lets see what happens now he has decent players around him for the first time . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, tezzaleed said: Rot. More often than not he gets past people but he does get tackled or fouled a lot. However at his age thats exactly what you want because every tackle and every foul is a lesson. It's when he stops trying to go past people for fear of being tackled is when you worry. Thats when he turns into westwood. Slightest touch and he goes down. Sometimes he gets free kick sometimes he doesn't. It's good to have players that try to take people on and have a go. But there is a time and place to do it and that is not in the middle of the park to get hit on the break. I've lost count of how many times that has happened. He doesn't need to stop trying to go past people he needs to realise he doesn't have to try and do it all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted January 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2017 I will go with the club. There is speculation that he may go in the Jan window. we do seem to be embarking on a recruitment campaign that targets players who offer consistency and durability, for me I applaud that. If the club are slowly changing the players profile, I will go with that. in Jack, I have more questions than answers......we have spent years with players waiting for potential to mature and I now feel the patience is running thin and that a more decisive regime is at work. I have long said on here that talent is the pre cursor to the attraction of any young player, but when the wait for application is dubious, decisions have to be made. I trust Steve Round and Steve Bruce to make the right footballing decisions and Tony and Keith to make the right business ones. i will back the club to get it right..........NOW. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 He'd be a much better player in a better team with a more serious attitude. I think with the leaders being bought into our team, we'll be seeing a much more professional approach, which will bring out the best in him. Also, because he's creative, you need runners around you, as I'll keep on saying, we're so static when we have the ball what exactly is he meant to do? I know the other day he should have squared the ball to Gabby or whoever it was, but we need consistency. Just keep him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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