PaulC Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 16 hours ago, R.Bear said: I hear this all the time. Can someone give me some examples of players who didnt get capped because of who they played for? It's a myth. If you're good enough, you'll get picked. As for Le Tissier, I didnt say anything about his ability. He just would never have made it at a top club. He didnt have the drive or work rate. His legacy is a non existent international career, no European appearances and no winners medals (or even cup finals). A great YouTube package and a legend at Southampton. Whoopee do. This is why I laugh when people mention "loyalty". Who wouldn't turn down a big move for more money, world class teammates, trophies and fame. Only an idiot or a painfully unambitious coward like Le Tissier. Jack made the right move for him and I don't care how many Villa fans whine about it. You're being extremely harsh on Le Tissier to call him a coward. In those days as he stated he wouldnt have got paid much more at Chelsea or Spurs and he was very happy at Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, PaulC said: You're being extremely harsh on Le Tissier to call him a coward. In those days as he stated he wouldnt have got paid much more at Chelsea or Spurs and he was very happy at Southampton. They also arent the same Chelsea or even Spurs from today. Was only one team was winning trophies regularly in the 90s and was United Said he was offered a move to Liverpool but they had declined already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 17 hours ago, R.Bear said: This is why I laugh when people mention "loyalty". Who wouldn't turn down a big move for more money, world class teammates, trophies and fame. Only an idiot or a painfully unambitious coward like Le Tissier. Bit harsh on him. Certainly not a coward. He said he felt responsible for Southampton and would be concerned if he left that they would get relegated. They were basically a one man team. 1 hour ago, PaulC said: You're being extremely harsh on Le Tissier to call him a coward. In those days as he stated he wouldnt have got paid much more at Chelsea or Spurs and he was very happy at Southampton. He said he was on £1,500 a week when Chelsea came in for him. He reckons he would have got £10k/£15k there as he would have been the countries first £10m player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Xela said: Bit harsh on him. Certainly not a coward. He said he felt responsible for Southampton and would be concerned if he left that they would get relegated. They were basically a one man team. He said he was on £1,500 a week when Chelsea came in for him. He reckons he would have got £10k/£15k there as he would have been the countries first £10m player. How ridiculous does that sound now? Le Tissier was on a less than £100k salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Bit of an odd career hes having right now. We know how good a player he is, cost £100mil and has just won the premier league. But equally, he rarely starts games, doesn't appear to be first choice for England or Man City. He's 27 in a couple of months so this is his peak time really for him youd think these next couple of years. Huge season for him coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, turvontour said: Bit of an odd career hes having right now. We know how good a player he is, cost £100mil and has just won the premier league. But equally, he rarely starts games, doesn't appear to be first choice for England or Man City. He's 27 in a couple of months so this is his peak time really for him youd think these next couple of years. Huge season for him coming up. Cannot be trusted by his national team or club. But still the main talking point. The only one with a personality. But for control freaks like Guardiola and SouthFork thats dangerous. Oh i am so **** bored by this shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Absolutely unplayable. Must brush up on his pressing though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Him not starting will be Southgate's undoing We're a completely different team with him on the pitch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 VT lol. Targett is mentally weak and now Tissier was a coward. Never change lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Wonder if Pep and Southgate are so obsessed by stats and percentages that they don't appreciate a wild card. If it's unpredictable, it's benefit can't be statistically calculated so they just want players that do the percentage options every time. That, and a player that will defend and cover the wing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Jack bails him out and he still gives him backhanded compliments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: Him not starting will be Southgate's undoing We're a completely different team with him on the pitch I just simply can't believe, more is not said about this......Southgate has a blind spot, that is going to cost us dearly. If he can't see Jack changes games and is a huge creator of chances.....he needs to go. I have no vested interest anymore, but this is a crime against football to render him as a sub...when the game is clearly crying out for his input. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Jack bails him out and he still gives him backhanded compliments **** me, this fraud needs to be sacked 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 05/06/2022 at 23:54, R.Bear said: I hear this all the time. Can someone give me some examples of players who didnt get capped because of who they played for? It's a myth. If you're good enough, you'll get picked. As for Le Tissier, I didnt say anything about his ability. He just would never have made it at a top club. He didnt have the drive or work rate. His legacy is a non existent international career, no European appearances and no winners medals (or even cup finals). A great YouTube package and a legend at Southampton. Whoopee do. This is why I laugh when people mention "loyalty". Who wouldn't turn down a big move for more money, world class teammates, trophies and fame. Only an idiot or a painfully unambitious coward like Le Tissier. Jack made the right move for him and I don't care how many Villa fans whine about it. sadly, its hard to argue against it......they are a long time retired, who could turn down that money, never mind the trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 4 hours ago, The_Steve said: Jack bails him out and he still gives him backhanded compliments Lol that’s more an insult then a compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted June 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2022 Shows how inept he is He wants an attacking player who can defend, press and chase back He has an attacking player who pushes the opponents defensive line deeper and stops their full back from attacking... But doesn't see the defensive benefit to it 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Shows how inept he is He wants an attacking player who can defend, press and chase back He has an attacking player who pushes the opponents defensive line deeper and stops their full back from attacking... But doesn't see the defensive benefit to it could maybe understand it if he didnt start with TWO holding midfielders every single game. We have the players to be the side on the front foot, but he always seems more concerned with what the opponent is doing. Must be the Villa in him still. So boring to watch, what a funsponge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Shows how inept he is He wants an attacking player who can defend, press and chase back He has an attacking player who pushes the opponents defensive line deeper and stops their full back from attacking... But doesn't see the defensive benefit to it No. He just wants attacking players who can defend. Steve Bruce had more attacking intent and principles than Southgate. With the talent available he has to be the most gutless cautious manager you've ever seen and its cost us 2 tournaments already. I despise him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Whatever he has against Jack it’s totally personal - he’s just finding new ways to undermine of the best players he’s got 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Whatever he has against Jack it’s totally personal - he’s just finding new ways to undermine of the best players he’s got i think thats over thinking it it is as simple as other attacking players defend better than grealish does and when you have 7 or 8 other defenders on the pitch that's **** bollocks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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