romavillan Posted August 25, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, useless said: I don't think Grealish seeking a move over this makes much logical sense, he's disillusioned with Southgate, so don't think it would makes sense that he'd ask for a transer to play for him. That's not to say he won't leave, but if he does I don't think it will be because of Southgate not picking him for England. Yeah if you look at it, he's picked Kalvin Phillips so any talk of Grealish moving to a "big club" to play in Europe is clearly bullshit. Hopefully Jack has people around him smart enough to point that out, I think it might be that he's not Southgate's type of personality for whatever reason. For the national teams sake I really, really hope we're not doing another Le Tissier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, knoppy1987 said: I'd be getting back in the Ireland shirt. Disgrace. That's the travesty, You have to declare that you are switching nationality which he had to do to play in the England U21s. You can only switch once. Edit - As if by fait, I have just read that fifa are changing the rules back this week - so he is no longer locked in. Edited August 25, 2020 by villanmac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I REALLY hope Jack isn't that bothered about getting called up, and when it finally happens he withdraws from the squad just before jetting out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Found this on YBIG forum regarding McGrath, dated 2nd August. I found it difficult to navigate the sunday world website on my phone to find the article. Interesting quote from former Aston Villa and Ireland legend Paul McGrath in today's Sunday World on the subject of Jack Grealish : " By the way, a little bird whispered in my ear not so long ago that Jack now regrets not staying with Ireland, when Martin O'Neill was our manager. The boss pleaded with Jack and his family that the lad stay with Ireland. But it's too late now-you can't change your international allegiance twice ! " A recent rule change though means he can change back. Edited August 25, 2020 by Newry_Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, villanmac said: That's the travesty, You have to declare that you are switching nationality which he had to do to play in the England U21s. You can only switch once. I think Ireland would shift heaven and earth to try though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Utterly bizarre to even suggest that. 15-20 years ago no other club had provided as many England internationals as us. We might have been crap the last 10 years, but we're probably still quite high on that list. You can probably say a lot about this club, but the notion you need to move on to be an England international, that's one thing that simply is load of fecking shite. If Phillips can get a call up and he's not played a second of Premier League football then all arguments for Grealish needing to move to a bigger club to get a call up are utter bollarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, hippo said: I think if Grealish went public and said he would now consider playing for EIRE - and thus never play for England that would really turn up the heat on Southgate. I remember Bruce Rioch turned down scotland - but after many England snubs accepted there offer. I don't think that would go down well with the Republic fans. When he chose England instead of them it was NOT a popular decision, to say the least. I feel he might be told to do one!! Edited August 25, 2020 by Niall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 25, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: I know they're not the same. What I'm saying is Grealish is of a high enough quality compared to some of the players to be given a go. So it doesn't make sense to me that Grealish's exclusion is purely because he doesn't fit into a system Jackie is the system, they should build the bloody team around him, Makes no sense absolute shocking decision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 25, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, hippo said: I agree - if Manu meet the asking price I think he will go - all this doesn't change that. You watch the pressure the press would heap onto Southgate then, even if just stats are no different to when with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I'd read an article a while back that basically just explained that Southgate is a huge endorser of the England set up from youth to the full team, and believes players should go through every level of the youth team and progress naturally into the main squad alongside others. Apparently he's got a real problem with Grealish deciding to go through the Irish youth system instead of the English one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, hippo said: I think Ireland would shift heaven and earth to try though If only there was a man who could somehow swing this for the FAI. A man who could run anything, a man who dare I say posseses all the skill savvy and knowhow. A hero in their hour of need......... F**k no. Not him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, sidcow said: You watch the pressure the press would heap onto Southgate then, even if just stats are no different to when with us. His stats could be on par with Winks and have 0 goals or assists or even sit on the bench most of the season, he will get called up just cause he’s at United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Jack has liked a SkyBet Post questioning why he isn’t in the squad Quote Jack Grealish has liked a tweet questioning why he wasn't included in the latest England squad. The Aston Villa skipper is still waiting for his first call-up from Gareth Southgate after he was not selected in the 24-man squad for next month's UEFA Nations League games against Iceland and Denmark. Grealish kept Villa in the Premier League, scoring an eighth goal of the season on the final day against West Ham, but has been overlooked once again. Instead, there's a call-up for Leeds United midfielder Kalvin Phillips. The 24-year-old played a key role in Marcelo Bielsa's side's Championship-winning season but the fact he hasn't played in the Premier League yet appeared to frustrate Grealish going off his Twitter activity. https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-jack-grealish-likes-tweet-after-being-overlooked-in-england-squad-20200825 Edited August 25, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 As an Englishman with no links to Ireland, I would find it hilarious if Grealish switched to Ireland, who then draw England in Euro 2021, played an absolute blinder and scored the winner to knock England out and get Tw@tface the sack. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, skarroki said: I'd read an article a while back that basically just explained that Southgate is a huge endorser of the England set up from youth to the full team, and believes players should go through every level of the youth team and progress naturally into the main squad alongside others. Apparently he's got a real problem with Grealish deciding to go through the Irish youth system instead of the English one Ahm....... Declan RIce? The lad who posted 'up the ra' on twitter albeit as a 15 year old is there. Edited August 25, 2020 by sparrow1988 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, hippo said: I agree - if Manu meet the asking price I think he will go - all this doesn't change that. What asking price? He isn't for sale! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, skarroki said: I'd read an article a while back that basically just explained that Southgate is a huge endorser of the England set up from youth to the full team, and believes players should go through every level of the youth team and progress naturally into the main squad alongside others. Apparently he's got a real problem with Grealish deciding to go through the Irish youth system instead of the English one Maybe he should have the balls to come out and say so....instead of denying the national team a top player....through dogma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, deeps said: His stats could be on par with Winks and have 0 goals or assists or even sit on the bench most of the season So literally Harry Winks' 2019/20 season? Edited August 25, 2020 by Steero113 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, Okonokos said: As an Englishman with no links to Ireland, I would find it hilarious if Grealish switched to Ireland, who then draw England in Euro 2021, played an absolute blinder and scored the winner to knock England out and get Tw@tface the sack. As an Irishman I would find it hilarious if we somehow managed to qualify for Euro 2021. But I like the look of your scenario also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Picking 5 defensive midfielders just says everything you need to know about Gareth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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