Zatman Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Malcolm was going to Roma wasn't he? Until Barca had to have him? was apparently for about half the price as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Ceferin says UEFA are meeting next week and the teams will face consequences. Interesting but UEFA credibility is on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Zatman said: Ceferin says UEFA are meeting next week and the teams will face consequences. Interesting but UEFA credibility is on the line Slap on the wrist incoming or a 20,000 fine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 5 hours ago, S-Platt said: Perhaps if FFP was scrapped teams with rich owners like us could afford to buy Messi or Ronaldo in their prime and give some money to the paupers like Barca and Real. Alas they created a rule to stop us spending beyond our means and somehow thet are all in massive debt. No sympathy from me although I do agree state owned clubs have an unfair advantage! Yep, I couldn't feel less sympathy for them. They worked with UEFA to create this pulled up drawbridge style FFP system linked to revenue and not debt/liabilities and now they've screwed themselves. Nobody forced them to spend money they didn't have to try to maintain their dominant status as the price of football skyrocketed around them. UEFA will no doubt give them a slap on the wrist, but they should absolutely be adjusting FFP to something more sustainable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Looking forward to the Netflix limited series. 3 Days in April. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, maqroll said: Looking forward to the Netflix limited series. 3 Days in April. It'll need to be filmed in real time to make it a decent series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Zatman said: was apparently for about half the price as well That's what I seem to remember. And that's how these clubs have operated. They even knew they were up shits creek in debt and chose to ignore it still. They really deserve bankrupcy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 8 hours ago, GingerCollins29 said: Slap on the wrist incoming or a 20,000 fine UEFA being UEFA it'll either be absolutely nothing or it will be double the punishment they dish out for racism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 8 hours ago, GingerCollins29 said: Slap on the wrist incoming or a 20,000 fine Yep i dont expect any different myself but Ceferin said 235 clubs texted him about a punishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 Based on the suggested Premier League punishments, they'll be asked to sit outside a couple of meetings for 5 minutes to think about what they've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 13 hours ago, sne said: Barca not backing down. https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/news/2114445/fc-barcelona-announcement-on-the-super-league?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=fcbarcelona&utm_campaign=4b5e891a-1dc8-498b-8377-8fd95ac48965 ARGH! Mainstream media etc aren't talking about this shit enough. STOP gaslighting us into thinking you were/are doing this for the fans! It's driving me crazy. They're insisting this is what fans want. NOBODY wants this, or the CL reforms, that is a fan. Yeah yeah they're talking about new fans. I don't buy it. Football is the most popular sport on the planet. It's about money. Stop pretending you're doing it for us. If anyone gave a shit about the fans they'd have at least been consulted about it! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: ARGH! Mainstream media etc aren't talking about this shit enough. STOP gaslighting us into thinking you were/are doing this for the fans! It's driving me crazy. They're insisting this is what fans want. NOBODY wants this, or the CL reforms, that is a fan. Yeah yeah they're talking about new fans. I don't buy it. Football is the most popular sport on the planet. It's about money. Stop pretending you're doing it for us. If anyone gave a shit about the fans they'd have at least been consulted about it! And neither does the players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 The only 2 things I agree with the breakaway 12 is that wages are generally unsustainable and the proposed CL reforms are not going to improve audience figures by having more pointless group matches. However by then just announcing that they wanted to up sticks and invent their own league with their own rules and take all the money was disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Perez: ”It’s like we killed football” (on the overall response) That’s exactly what you tried to do and it’s so so sad that you either cannot see it or will not see it. Sick of rich old twunts trying to dictate the world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: The only 2 things I agree with the breakaway 12 is that wages are generally unsustainable and the proposed CL reforms are not going to improve audience figures by having more pointless group matches. However by then just announcing that they wanted to up sticks and invent their own league with their own rules and take all the money was disgusting. Looking a few days on I agree that potential is there. Problem was the criteria and rules, a league system like the Nations League could work though extremely complicated with Villa in a group with Villarreal, Sampdoria and Slavia Prague and winning the division gets us up. Dont put it past UEFA trying something similar The way they went about and with the teams they picked actually lost some credibility like Arsenal and Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I feel UEFA are in a bit of a pickle. If they don't hand out the punishments every single club in Europe is calling for, the existence of UEFA is under threat. There really is no point to keep the organisation. At the same time I bet they aren't interested in handing out punishments, and would gladly brush this under the carpet if given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I feel UEFA are in a bit of a pickle. If they don't hand out the punishments every single club in Europe is calling for, the existence of UEFA is under threat. There really is no point to keep the organisation. At the same time I bet they aren't interested in handing out punishments, and would gladly brush this under the carpet if given the chance. I agree. I see a minimal fine and a suspended European ban 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nicho Posted April 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) The easiest fix for the champions league is remove seedings. They complain about the smaller games so remove the item that stops Madrid, Bayern, Juve and Liverpool being drawn in the group stage together. This solves a problem for me. potential for bigger games more often but not same year in year out, allows the smaller team to potentially get further in the competition and get more prize money to allow them to compete. Obviously this doesn’t suit that 12 as what they are saying is we want the big games and the competition money, and this would probably lead to less of them in the knockouts. Edit: and to add to this, 3rd place should not drop into the europa and the europa should not be the exact same format. A straight unseeded knockout cope ala the FA cup would make that way more entertaining and less of a strain on the clubs trying to compete in their domestic leagues. It’s almost as if the europa is designed to keep clubs challenging the tops ones down. Edited April 23, 2021 by Nicho 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXD Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, sne said: And neither does the players I hope this becomes a bigger story. The players should make themselves heard about the congestion of matches. The UEFA increases the number of games in the CL, but lets not forget their recent invention of the nations league, another competition nobody asked for. The European Cup used to be 16 teams, now it's 24. it's harder to find a country that is not participating than it is to find one that is. That all adds up for many of the players. At the same time, the players are part of the problem with their ever increasing wage demands. Clubs need extra games to fund these wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Ceferin says UEFA are meeting next week and the teams will face consequences. Interesting but UEFA credibility is on the line i'd love them to get a european ban. no chance of it happening though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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