Zatman Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 This is from March 6 last year, Sid Lowe describes them perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) Those new CL rules where two clubs that miss out on the cup will automatically qualify either way. That's me done with watching CL and European football. It's been fun, especially the days of Rosenborg in the 90s, but **** UEFA and the CL. Boycott activated. Edited April 23, 2021 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Daily mail saying UEFA has promised no punishment for the 12. That surely can't be ? If so I think I'm done with football all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Rino8 said: Interesting to hear Chelsea were never going to be allowed, too much Russian conflicts of interest with Gazprom, Zenit etc. Barely about the football in reality. Abramovic doesn't only own the club because of football in the first place. Can't put a price on being too prominent a figure in England for the FSB to murder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, jacketspuds said: Mine tends to shrink in the winter. Not half! Spoiler Sometimes even less than that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 23, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 23, 2021 It's interesting how many of the 'apologies' include clubs claiming that they did it with the best intentions of their supporters, as they didn't want their clubs to be left behind or be unable to compete. What's absolutely implied in that sentence is that they don't give a f*** about the fans of any club that would have been left outside of the super league and fully intended to leave those clubs behind and unable to compete. There's not a whisper of anything vaguely resembling an apology to the people they actually intended to shaft. It's like they borrowed the wife's car, ran over next doors toddler and are apologising to the wife for denting a bumper. The complete lack of awareness or contrition is appalling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: It's interesting how many of the 'apologies' include clubs claiming that they did it with the best intentions of their supporters, as they didn't want their clubs to be left behind or be unable to compete. What's absolutely implied in that sentence is that they don't give a f*** about the fans of any club that would have been left outside of the super league. Which is also a direct contradiction because they repeatedly said it would be good for the footballing pyramid (without giving any mention whatsoever about how it was going to help). Edited April 23, 2021 by sidcow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Quote Aleksander Ceferin has warned clubs clinging to the Super League dream that they could face bans from the Champions League. The UEFA president has been speaking with AP with Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus and AC Milan yet to formally disavow themselves from the Super League. All six Premier League clubs named as founders on Sunday night had dropped out within 48-hours. Fan pressure had been brought to bear, but it seems influences from the Kremlin and Abu Dhabi were more influential. Real Madrid president Florentino Perez remains a vocal Super League proponent, while his Barcelona counterpart Joan Laporta still insists a Super League - in some form - is "absolutely necessary". AC Milan released a statement regarding the now toxic nature of the proposal, but didn't formally back out. While Juventus president Andrea Agnelli claims the current proposal is not workable, but remains married to the idea. "It’s crystal clear that the clubs will have to decide if they are Super League or they are a European club," Ceferin told AP. "If they say we are a Super League, then they don’t play Champions League, of course ... and if they are ready to do that, they can play in their own competition.” Financiers JP Morgan distanced themselves from the Super League on Friday, having originally agreed to fund the project to the tune of €3.5billion. Clubs are still set to owe the company millions in break fees. "We still are waiting for legal expertise and then we will say," Ceferin said regarding UEFA's next steps, "But everybody faces consequences for their decisions and they know that. “For me, it’s a very different situation between the clubs that admitted their mistake and said, ‘We will leave the project.’ "The others mainly know I would say that this project is dead, but they don’t want to believe it, probably.” https://www.otbsports.com/sport/ceferin-says-super-league-holdouts-could-face-champions-league-ban-1184982?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2D7VCj0kV9SuOUApLhYPPtMV02CVvNUYhyHvA9NMA07PNQFpsLU85XFv8#Echobox=1619199918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/fotboll/a/860oLW/far-inte-lamna-super-league Quote German Der Spiegel has come across the 167-page document that forms the basis for the formation of the "Super League". It states, among other things, that Real Madrid and Barcelona would receive more money than the other teams to participate - but also that the clubs must pay a penalty fee to withdraw. The sum: €150m. "Can not be abandoned" After massive protests, all clubs except Real Madrid and FC Barcelona have now declared that they do not intend to be part of the heavily criticized venture. But the leaked documents thus show that it becomes legally extremely problematic to de facto leave the ship. This was also something the founder Florentino Pérez pointed out in his defense speech last night. - The agreements in the Super League are binding. No one can abandon them, he said, among other things. PHOTO: DER SPIEGEL Leaked documents According to Norwegian Dagbladet , however, there is a clause that would make it possible for the clubs to leave the Super League without penalty fee - if FC Barcelona, which is the only member-run club, chooses to do the same. Will vote Barça sent out a letter on their website yesterday (Thursday) in which they called the new super league a "historic opportunity". But in the end, it is the members, the so-called "socios", who will vote on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Hating the fact that sky are helping the scum6 here and attempting a slight subtle brainwash for their benefit, all this it's not the club's or fans faults etc... No punishment needed, utter bollox. Small club's get the full weight of the law and are punished to the max, it's all typically uneven, this scum6 need hitting where it hurts, it's the only way. Then we can talk about changing and implementing new rules and regs that even the game up. I don't think we need these club's as.much as is being made out, others can be the same. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Moyes proposing a 2 tier Premier League with the Old Scum joining Its like all the chaos of this week has been forgotten already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Phil Silvers said: Hating the fact that sky are helping the scum6 here and attempting a slight subtle brainwash for their benefit, all this it's not the club's or fans faults etc... No punishment needed, utter bollox. Small club's get the full weight of the law and are punished to the max, it's all typically uneven, this scum6 need hitting where it hurts, it's the only way. Then we can talk about changing and implementing new rules and regs that even the game up. I don't think we need these club's as.much as is being made out, others can be the same. I cancelled Sky tv long ago, they have helped bring the PL to the point we are at today where the select few teams are winning every trophy year in year out. Look back over the list of domestic trophy winners for the last 20 years and bar the odd exception it is mostly the same four / five teams on the list. Sky are happy for that to happen, they hype those teams up and help continue the cycle. If I am honest I am a little disappointed that the SL fell apart so quickly. I was hoping the SL6 would piss off and some level playing field would be restored in the PL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I get a bit more pissed why they include Spurs as a Sky 6 team. Is it one trophy in 25 years Give me a break 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: I get a bit more pissed why they include Spurs as a Sky 6 team. Is it one trophy in 25 years Give me a break 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 24, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 24, 2021 They are the six clubs with the highest revenues in England - it's no more complicated than that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Just now, NeilS said: I cancelled Sky tv long ago, they have helped bring the PL to the point we are at today where the select few teams are winning every trophy year in year out. Look back over the list of domestic trophy winners for the last 20 years and bar the odd exception it is mostly the same four / five teams on the list. Sky are happy for that to happen, they hype those teams up and help continue the cycle. If I am honest I am a little disappointed that the SL fell apart so quickly. I was hoping the SL6 would piss off and some level playing field would be restored in the PL. Just now, Zatman said: I get a bit more pissed why they include Spurs as a Sky 6 team. Is it one trophy in 25 years Give me a break Just now, sne said: Just now, OutByEaster? said: They are the six clubs with the highest revenues in England - it's no more complicated than that. Thats it, the 6 biggest companies and they know that other clubs MIGHT catch them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 24, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 24, 2021 Bang on that, the big six managers want to pretend this didn't happen and it's all over. No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Klopp is prick, why are the media still buying he is a friendly nice guy. Biggest clearing in the woods in actual football 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 24, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Zatman said: Klopp is prick, why are the media still buying he is a friendly nice guy. Biggest clearing in the woods in actual football Before today's game one of the TV blokes said that he'd really cemented his relationship with the fans by speaking out against the Super League. When did he do that then? I heard him griping about too many games and he's now whining that people still want to talk Super League, but I'd hardly call anything he's said "speaking out". Shill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 What speaking out did Klopp do exactly? This revionist history of something weeks old is staggering. It needs to be challenged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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