nick76 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I’m calling it, it’s going to be a straight swap for Mbappe. Bookmark this comment for when the deal happens… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) on loan to Nice???? another fupping pointless loan to wind down his contract and value further, unless there is a commitment to buy at the end.... Edited July 24, 2023 by VillanousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2023 Deleting my account here. See you on NiceTalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: on loan to Nice???? another fupping pointless loan to wind down his contract and value further, unless there is a commitment to buy at the end.... The problem though is there has to be a buyer for him to be sold and I’m guessing both the player and Villa prefer that. It seems that’s not the case that a club is willing to buy him even for a small fee so loan is the next best option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: The problem though is there has to be a buyer for him to be sold and I’m guessing both the player and Villa prefer that. It seems that’s not the case that a club is willing to buy him even for a small fee so loan is the next best option. But that makes zero sense, I can understand it with Traore who didn't really do much of note in a lets face it not very good Turkish league. But Sanson by all accounts did very well at Strasborg in the French league 1 - and Nice are no slouches yet.... another loan where you know we won't even see his full wages covered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, VillanousOne said: But that makes zero sense, I can understand it with Traore who didn't really do much of note in a lets face it not very good Turkish league. But Sanson by all accounts did very well at Strasborg in the French league 1 - and Nice are no slouches yet.... another loan where you know we won't even see his full wages covered But they can't afford his full wages. This is the problem when we buy someone from these leagues and it doesn't work out. He would have had a mssive salary jump that he can't just say goodbye to straight awa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Why cant someone just bloody buy him. No more loans ffs Might work financially to do it that way. I think if we do take a Loan with option to Buy it's probably a high loan fee and low buy option. Also he's probably on bigger salary here than he would get if he moved. Essentially he's most likely gone for good if he does well there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Shame if it's only a loan, both for us and him. Kinda expected thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rodders said: But they can't afford his full wages. This is the problem when we buy someone from these leagues and it doesn't work out. He would have had a massive salary jump that he can't just say goodbye to straight awa. yep agreed we have to go all in and offer stupid wages to get players we want, and if it doesn't work out there is nothing you can do. Hopefully we will get better at this thing they call transfers. we are not the only ones though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Another loan. His final chance to impress if we want a fee for him next summer. Are Nice not one of the richer teams in Ligue Un? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, nick76 said: The problem though is there has to be a buyer for him to be sold and I’m guessing both the player and Villa prefer that. It seems that’s not the case that a club is willing to buy him even for a small fee so loan is the next best option. Also we need to sell him for over £7m to make a profit. He has PL wages for 2 years. I think for a club to buy him now for over £7m and pay him close to PL wages isn't going to happen. He's on ~£3m a year salary. So I think the right way is something like Loan fee of £4m (so we lose £2.5m on him this year in amortisation and wages). Then an option to buy for £6m at the end (we then book a 2.5m profit at end of season and save £3m wages the following season). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Only makes sense if we are getting a healthy loan fee and they are covering all his wages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Also we need to sell him for over £7m to make a profit. He has PL wages for 2 years. I think for a club to buy him now for over £7m and pay him close to PL wages isn't going to happen. He's on ~£3m a year salary. So I think the right way is something like Loan fee of £4m (so we lose £2.5m on him this year in amortisation and wages). Then an option to buy for £6m at the end (we then book a 2.5m profit at end of season and save £3m wages the following season). I’d be very surprised if the loan fee and transfer fee are anywhere near that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Positive of a loan means we get to see him one last time next year at Walsall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Ah the old option to buy that they won't take up. What a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Also we need to sell him for over £7m to make a profit. He has PL wages for 2 years. I think for a club to buy him now for over £7m and pay him close to PL wages isn't going to happen. He's on ~£3m a year salary. So I think the right way is something like Loan fee of £4m (so we lose £2.5m on him this year in amortisation and wages). Then an option to buy for £6m at the end (we then book a 2.5m profit at end of season and save £3m wages the following season). Probably they’ll just cover his wages and that’s it. Which is still a small win for us, £3m saved rather than him rotting in our third team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 We should force a club to put a mandatory buy option into a loan when they don't want it. No reason why that won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: I didn't realise he was 28. Time to move on, Morgan. Adds to our less than stellar reputation as a home for French players: barring Kamara, Digne and Diaby, we've had: Didier Six David Ginola Mathieu Berson Robert Pires Didier Agathe Charles N'Zogbia Ali Cissokho Jordan Veretout Jordan Amavi Fred Guilbert Idrissa Gueye Like Sanson, they were all good footballers, but it seems like we get the timing wrong with French players. At least Kamara makes up for it. Senegal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, TheMightyVillans said: Positive of a loan means we get to see him one last time next year at Walsall. When we can all say that it will be the year that Sanson finally comes good for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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