MrBlack Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 On 16/01/2021 at 20:26, HalfTimePost said: A thread from our Friendly Neighbourhood Analyticsman Worth reading the lot but This bigger things: Goes on to say he matches McGinn best in our side. But also that playing Sanson-Luiz-McGinn (I.e. instead of Barkley) would make us even harder to breakdown and Sanson would still be capable of pushing forwards in attack. TLDR: he'd likely compete with McGinn, but also gives an option instead of Barkley if we need more energy and grit in midfield. So, strong Midfield competition. On this basis, I'm in. Exactly what we need. This is probably worth a revisit if its looks like Emery has him in his plans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, MrBlack said: This is probably worth a revisit if its looks like Emery has him in his plans... What makes you think Emery has him in his plans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Would be great to integrate sanson, i know its a long shot but i believe he has all the attributes to thrive under emery, it will basically be like having lo celso in the team, sanson just needs to not get injured or lose his shit and he will get to play games for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: What makes you think Emery has him in his plans ? He's taken him on the the US trip so you would assume he's in his plans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Players going on these tours doesn't mean they're in the manager's plans, last season Guilbert, Nakamba, Sanson, Traore, and Davis all went to Australia, a number of the players going to USA will be sold if bids come in, Sanson being in the squad just means that a move isn't close for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jono62 said: He's taken him on the the US trip so you would assume he's in his plans. What @useless said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Jono62 said: He's taken him on the the US trip so you would assume he's in his plans. Very doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: What makes you think Emery has him in his plans ? Key word that you missed there was if 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UpTheVilla26 Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 I still maintain Sanson is quality and if he can stay free of injury, he's a good squad option, especially with extra games in Europe 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Jono62 said: He's taken him on the the US trip so you would assume he's in his plans. Preseason tourneys or games can mean little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, useless said: Players going on these tours doesn't mean they're in the manager's plans, last season Guilbert, Nakamba, Sanson, Traore, and Davis all went to Australia, a number of the players going to USA will be sold if bids come in, Sanson being in the squad just means that a move isn't close for him. Or this...useless talking sense as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted July 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2023 Not sure if he's in UE's plans, but personally whenever I've seen him he's never not looked quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I’ve given up on the idea of him “making it” at Villa, mainly due to length of time and little to no change regarding his situation… but I’m open to being surprised… can he also stay fit? Suppose he did well at Strasbourg… can be useful, if he’ll accept a relatively bit-part role… We could just be keeping him fit and available, primed for a move at a reasonable fee… IMO, it’s time for us to really kick on now and enhance the quality of our team and the options in our squad. Not hold back, look for small measures or be sentimental… Move players out to bring in superior ones… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) What it does show is he's training well and is professional even if he knows his time here is limited. He'd actually be a good signing for one of the lower sides based on his pedigree in France but guess wages are too high for Wolves and Everton unless they wait late. It's a shame how his time has gone here and now we simply have too many quality options ahead for him to have a realistic chance of playing unless we have a ridiculous injury crisis. It's weird as I remember 20 years ago we signed a guy called Mathieu Berson who was reasonably rated in France and he had some tidy games for us but was constantly dropped so could never get a run of 4-5 starts and think we ended up just loaning him out for two seasons. Good job Kamara has been a big success as we don't really do well with French players! Edited July 19, 2023 by VillaChris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, VillaChris said: What it does show is he's training well and is professional even if he knows his time here is limited. He'd actually be a good signing for one of the lower sides based on his pedigree in France but guess wages are too high for Wolves and Everton unless they wait late. It's a shame how his time has gone here and now we simply have too many quality options ahead for him to have a realistic chance of playing unless we have a ridiculous injury crisis. It's weird as I remember 20 years ago we signed a guy called Mathieu Berson who was reasonably rated in France and he had some tidy games for us but was constantly dropped so could never get a run of 4-5 starts and think we ended up just loaning him out for two seasons. Good job Kamara has been a big success as we don't really do well with French players! Remember Berson as well. Protracted transfer from DOL and then never really played. Sanson all but done with us, imo. UE maybe keeping him in shop window as US games will be global viewing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvonVillain Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 Oh Jesus not this again. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Emery gave him quite a talking to after about 15 minutes of him playing against Walsall - I think he was annoyed that he wasn't following instructions and I think maybe that's what has bothered previous managers about him too. How he played after that talk was very different too; perhaps more subdued but much more positionally disciplined. It might be that he's a bit stubborn, arrogant or dim and has been difficult to train. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) The Villa Analytics Tweet quoted by @MrBlack says he is best placed to replace John McGinn. That just isn’t going to happen because McGinn has grown so much in form and effectiveness under Emery while Sanson simply hasn’t. Edited July 20, 2023 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, useless said: Players going on these tours doesn't mean they're in the manager's plans, last season Guilbert, Nakamba, Sanson, Traore, and Davis all went to Australia, a number of the players going to USA will be sold if bids come in, Sanson being in the squad just means that a move isn't close for him. Steven Gerrard was manager for that material. Steven Gerrard had no **** idea what he was doing. Ergo, given the chasm of difference between Emery and Gerrard, it's likely Emery sees Sanson as captain material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSharky Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 hours ago, lexicon said: Emery gave him quite a talking to after about 15 minutes of him playing against Walsall - I think he was annoyed that he wasn't following instructions and I think maybe that's what has bothered previous managers about him too. How he played after that talk was very different too; perhaps more subdued but much more positionally disciplined. It might be that he's a bit stubborn, arrogant or dim and has been difficult to train. When he came on after half time he played behind Watkins in the Buendia/Bailey role. After we made the rest of the substitutions in the 65th minute he moved into a defensive midfield role. I doubt he was given a "talking to", but rather tactical instructions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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