hippo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 He looks totally unsuited to the English game. I can't help thinking we saw a player previously valued at £30m available for £15m and pounced. Fringe player at best for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I thought he looked ok in his few games. Just a little lightweight and not yet quite with the speed of the league. But you could definitely see a decent player in there. It’s a shame he got injured. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ismail-villa Posted June 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, hippo said: He looks totally unsuited to the English game. I can't help thinking we saw a player previously valued at £30m available for £15m and pounced. Fringe player at best for me. Give him a chance to get settled at least. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted June 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, hippo said: He looks totally unsuited to the English game. I can't help thinking we saw a player previously valued at £30m available for £15m and pounced. Fringe player at best for me. What does this even mean mate? You are either good at football or you aren’t. You adapt your style to how the game is played in the league but it doesn’t happen over night. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, bobzy said: So you just assumed he doesn’t speak English because he’s foreign? No because I have experience of French people and English. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, hippo said: He looks totally unsuited to the English game. I can't help thinking we saw a player previously valued at £30m available for £15m and pounced. Fringe player at best for me. Yes we know you dont rate him and have written off and called him a flop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, ismail-villa said: Give him a chance to get settled at least. Had already called him a flop since day 1.Did it to Guilbert too which makes look like an anti french agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: Had already called him a flop since day 1.Did it to Guilbert too which makes look like an anti french agenda Sod the Hundred Years War, enter the 684 Years War 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 At the bottom of the Sanson article it says (and links to another article) that says that the hierarchy are frustrated because Connor Hourihane was sent to Swansea to get Sanson in. And that questions are being asked about Dean because of that decision, that we lacked Hourihanes creativity with Jack out. I think we can safely file it under bollocks. Yes we lacked creativity, but Hourihane was not the answer, the article is a massive reach start to finish. I do think it's a tad strange that they've looked to Morgan Sanson to make up a bullshit article about as nobody outside of Villa would have heard of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: At the bottom of the Sanson article it says (and links to another article) that says that the hierarchy are frustrated because Connor Hourihane was sent to Swansea to get Sanson in. And that questions are being asked about Dean because of that decision, that we lacked Hourihanes creativity with Jack out. I think we can safely file it under bollocks. Yes we lacked creativity, but Hourihane was not the answer, the article is a massive reach start to finish. I do think it's a tad strange that they've looked to Morgan Sanson to make up a bullshit article about as nobody outside of Villa would have heard of him. It's a troll article. An impressive effort as it clearly caught out a few, but the fact its from FI means it should be treated as garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 50 minutes ago, Zatman said: Had already called him a flop since day 1.Did it to Guilbert too which makes look like an anti french agenda Yeah - I got on the phone to dean [Irony /on] Hippo "That Guilberts shite Dean - Ship him out and get matty cash in " DS "are you sure mate - I though he was ok" Hippo "Nah hes shite mate" DS "OK - I will do as you say - loan him out and promote a 35 year old as back up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Some of his touches in the first few appearances were pure class. Pity he got injured but with a full pre-season he’ll be an all action CM in an area we need both quality and depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, hippo said: He looks totally unsuited to the English game. I can't help thinking we saw a player previously valued at £30m available for £15m and pounced. Fringe player at best for me. 9 matches, most from the bench... S'il vous plait mec! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I thought he looked ok in his few games. Just a little lightweight and not yet quite with the speed of the league. But you could definitely see a decent player in there. It’s a shame he got injured. Yeah neat and tidy is how I'd describe him with hopefully more to come. Mind you I thought exactly the same about Matthieu Berson and then Makoun years back thinking they'd be really good after settling in and never happened for either for a few reasons. Veretout also had that air about him and gone on to have good career in Serie A. Edited June 15, 2021 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 14 hours ago, MotoMkali said: "Smith let him out on loan" Yes because Smith negotiates transfers and loans because that is what his job is hmmm. Football insider is the worst. Also, wasn't Smith supposedly "unhappy" with letting Hourihane go in the first place? But because he wanted to play regularly and due to the high regard the club hold him in, they agreed to let him go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 You can tell he wasn’t used to the speed and quality of the league. He needs to train very hard to get himself fit and sharp enough. He pretty much admitted it himself. Footballing ability is clearly there. That’s what pre season will be all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You can tell he wasn’t used to the speed and quality of the league. He needs to train very hard to get himself fit and sharp enough. He pretty much admitted it himself. Footballing ability is clearly there. That’s what pre season will be all about. For me I think it's foolish to write off anyone, player or manager, before they've had a proper pre-season, as they've not really had the time to fit into the style of the team, so you're just playing game after game on instinct. Same goes in reverse too, a player that comes in half way through the season and hits the ground running may not be the same player once they have to fit to a system more rigidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, hippo said: He looks totally unsuited to the English game. I can't help thinking we saw a player previously valued at £30m available for £15m and pounced. Fringe player at best for me. When he admits that he's struggling while it's a lovely admittance it's also one that is cause for concern. I do hope he can pull it together but I have a feeling that we won't see him and it could be a samatta type signing. If that happens hopefully we can find a player that's on the level of Watkins because what a time that was getting rid of Samatta to bring Watkins in his place. I will wish Samson all the luck in the world because if he tries and tries real hard then maybe he can make it work and I wish nothing more for our players to make it work at Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dave-R said: When he admits that he's struggling while it's a lovely admittance it's also one that is cause for concern. I do hope he can pull it together but I have a feeling that we won't see him and it could be a samatta type signing. If that happens hopefully we can find a player that's on the level of Watkins because what a time that was getting rid of Samatta to bring Watkins in his place. I will wish Samson all the luck in the world because if he tries and tries real hard then maybe he can make it work and I wish nothing more for our players to make it work at Villa. is he John Cena? I'm more concerned about the severity of his injury and how it will impact his preseason, rather than cobbling together a load of random, weak reasons he won't succeed seemingly out of abject boredom. People writing off a player after 9 appearances, most of which were from the bench is a new record for Villatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, VillanousOne said: is he John Cena? I'm more concerned about the severity of his injury and how it will impact his preseason, rather than cobbling together a load of random, weak reasons he won't succeed seemingly out of abject boredom. People writing off a player after 9 appearances, most of which were from the bench is a new record for Villatalk. I don't think it's so much as people were writing him off or arez he's kind of done that himself abit with openly admitting he's struggling. Now I'm not done with him yet myself, I think there's a player there, he certainly seemed fast as well, with nice passing. I do agree that he shouldn't be written off yet, just like Wesley really he has to be given the chance to come back and make a go of things in a patient way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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