MrBlack Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Dale said: I want the guy back that knocked in a perfect hattrick against Liverpool, a brace against Arsenal and drove with absolute confidence, leading a ten man team to victory against Palace. It's in there. Pochettino got Rickie Lambert appearing worthy of a move to Liverpool, I've no doubt he'll improve Ollie. I don't see that Watkins returning under Gerrard. The man seems to be incapable of motivating anyone. Under a proper manager... hopefully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I don't see that Watkins returning under Gerrard. The man seems to be incapable of motivating anyone. Under a proper manager... hopefully so. Think its a case of confidence more than anything, and our team plays without any. Need someone to come in, believe in them, and impart knowledge and wisdom. Stevie ain't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Utter trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 So depressing knowing this guy makes a living playing football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2022 Ollie scored 14 league goals a couple of years ago. Here's hoping a proper manager can get that and more out of him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Utterly useless last night - how on earth did he become a professional footballer based on that ?He has the same technical level that the previous fat useless number 11 had. My only chink of optimism is that his confidence must be totally shot to pieces and maybe just maybe a new coach can get a tune out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, ChesterDad said: Utterly useless last night - how on earth did he become a professional footballer based on that ?He has the same technical level that the previous fat useless number 11 had. My only chink of optimism is that his confidence must be totally shot to pieces and maybe just maybe a new coach can get a tune out of him. Played mostly with his back to goal. His touch is really bad and so is the way he uses his weight and body to give him time and protect the ball. He's not a donkey. He's not. He's sharp with decent instincts and scores goals and works hard. Now let's supply the guy instead of using him like Andy Carroll. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Played mostly with his back to goal. His touch is really bad and so is the way he uses his weight and body to give him time and protect the ball. He's not a donkey. He's not. He's sharp with decent instincts and scores goals and works hard. Now let's supply the guy instead of using him like Andy Carroll. His touch is very bad and instinctive ? With all due respect I just don’t think he is - I don’t expect him to score these days and isn’t this the essence of an instinctive striker? In fact if anything he goes to pieces in front of goal at the moment and scuffs the ball. What I do acknowledge is that he is totally void of confidence and this might well change with the new manager - but the bigger picture will remain and that is, he is unfortunately a limited striker imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Motivating? they are professionals. Ashley Young doesn't need to have his hand held to put a shift in, nor does Mings to be fair. The rest are pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I’m hoping the first decision the new manager makes is to have Ollie nowhere near first 11, this way we may have a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I heard someone call him Wallie Otkins the other night. I'm going to continue this trend until he sorts himself out. Along with his feet of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Pretty sure if we get a decent manager in he’ll be back to the player that comfortably scored double figures in his two PL seasons. Whether he can kick on from there I doubt and I’d like to see us go after someone better next summer, but he’s a 12-15 goal a season striker if used right - we know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 14 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Played mostly with his back to goal. His touch is really bad and so is the way he uses his weight and body to give him time and protect the ball. He's not a donkey. He's not. He's sharp with decent instincts and scores goals and works hard. Now let's supply the guy instead of using him like Andy Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Everyone gets a fresh start under a new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Watkins is never going to be a good finisher. He’s never going to have a great first touch. He’s unlikely to ever play with his head up and link the play effectively. He’s too old now to develop those things enough. He will always work exceptionally hard for the team. He has decent pace and decent strength. Presses the defence well and can work the channels effectively. If he plays, we must play to his strengths. Otherwise, don’t pick him. The biggest problem is, that his strengths are the weaknesses of Ings and vice versa. If you could combine the two, you would have a top player. I think we need to choose a team, formation and tactics that best suit our collective and then pick it consistently. That means you either play Ings or Watkins but not both. In my view, that means we pick a team to press from the front, which means Watkins starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Adam2003 said: Pretty sure if we get a decent manager in he’ll be back to the player that comfortably scored double figures in his two PL seasons. Whether he can kick on from there I doubt and I’d like to see us go after someone better next summer, but he’s a 12-15 goal a season striker if used right - we know that. Watkins is at his best with space to run into and quick counter attacking football. This slow build up play and narrow formation made the field to compact for him and robbed him of his best qualities, this then hit his confidence and he's a big confidence player. I think 4 2 3 1 and 3 4 1 2 / 3 4 3 are the formations that best suit our squad of players. I can imagine new coach going for these 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Happy for him worked his socks off, looked more confident and can see that goal was a huge relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Yes good to see him get his goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I loved the way he needed 4 chances to score his goal. Sums up his season pretty well. Maybe it's a confidence thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I've just seen his goal as I missed it on my stream. What a finish! That's what they call 'three bites at the cherry' right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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