rodders0223 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 39 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Where's Ollie?? At home seriously questioning whether to join a club that spends this long haggling over him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post S-Platt Posted September 7, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: I do wish Julie Bailey would unlock her basement, but my concern is would we have enough chairs at the unveiling?! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, David-Copenhagen said: Go back and look for Defoe........ Start on the motorway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Think we should pull out of negotiations myself and if we already haven’t and move on. If he really wanted to join us he would force Brentford’s hand. I get Smith wants him but there will come a time when we cannot wait for a Championship player untested in a higher league to make his decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, thabucks said: Think we should pull out of negotiations myself and if we already haven’t and move on. If he really wanted to join us he would force Brentford’s hand. I get Smith wants him but there will come a time when we cannot wait for a Championship player untested in a higher league to make his decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentfordnylons Posted September 7, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2020 59 minutes ago, thabucks said: Think we should pull out of negotiations myself and if we already haven’t and move on. If he really wanted to join us he would force Brentford’s hand. I get Smith wants him but there will come a time when we cannot wait for a Championship player untested in a higher league to make his decision. “A tested Premier League striker”How much will that cost in fee and wages and name me 2 who are available.Buying from abroad also comes with an untested in PL tag as you and almost every club has witnessed.Championship is regarded as one of the toughest in the world and it takes a top player to be highest goal scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Brentfordnylons said: “A tested Premier League striker”How much will that cost in fee and wages and name me 2 who are available.Buying from abroad also comes with an untested in PL tag as you and almost every club has witnessed.Championship is regarded as one of the toughest in the world and it takes a top player to be highest goal scorer. Tested Premier League striker that can score 15 goals a season would cost north of £50m I would guess and even then it would be one heading towards their last contract. Wages wise be very close to a hundred grand a week I would have thought. Not something we are capable of doing at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 wtf is actually going on here? Is Barry Fry leading our negotiations now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, thabucks said: Think we should pull out of negotiations myself and if we already haven’t and move on. If he really wanted to join us he would force Brentford’s hand. Difficult to see how Watkins could force. Brentford’s hand, as they already have his replacement in place, and he isn’t even being picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brentfordnylons said: “A tested Premier League striker”How much will that cost in fee and wages and name me 2 who are available.Buying from abroad also comes with an untested in PL tag as you and almost every club has witnessed.Championship is regarded as one of the toughest in the world and it takes a top player to be highest goal scorer. Whilst I generally agree with what you're saying there, I have to say that the previous Championship top scorers haven't exactly set the Premier League alight. Looking at the last few years, we've had: Aleksandar Mitrovic - 11 PL goals Teemu Pukki - 11 PL goals Chris Wood - 34 PL goals over 3 seasons. Andre Gray - 14 PL goals over 3 seasons Daryl Murphy - 1 PL goal The previous season Ross McCormack was top scorer, the less said about that the better. There's no guarantee that Watkins will score the goals we need in the PL, it's a big step up. That said, I think Watkins has really good potential for improvement. He's at a good age where he can get better and has a great all round game. I really do hope we sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, meregreen said: Difficult to see how Watkins could force. Brentford’s hand, as they already have his replacement in place, and he isn’t even being picked. Transfer request ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Brentfordnylons said: “A tested Premier League striker”How much will that cost in fee and wages and name me 2 who are available.Buying from abroad also comes with an untested in PL tag as you and almost every club has witnessed.Championship is regarded as one of the toughest in the world and it takes a top player to be highest goal scorer. Origi/Batshuayi/Iheanacho spring to mind. Not concerned about the player or league per se it is the amount of time it is taking. I’d move on personally and if things move come back in if necessary. Edited September 7, 2020 by thabucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted September 7, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2020 I'm not sure if this level of panic is sustainable for the next 28 days - try and pace yourselves. *Edit - sorry, my mistake it's 39 days - we have the weird 11 day extension for players between the Championship and Premier league.* 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, thabucks said: Transfer request ? Pretty confident we’ll get this one over line this week, will be interesting to find out when the window is over why it took so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, thabucks said: Transfer request ? That forces nothing. He could conceivably tell Brentford he will only join us and no one else. But then he would be weakening his position with regards to his potential contract. I think, frustrating though it is, we’re gonna have to simply wait for this one to pan out, or offer what Brentford want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, thabucks said: Transfer request ? in olden times - if a player handed in a transfer request it made things less lucrative for the player. Can't remember the last I heard of a player formally handing in a transfer request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, meregreen said: That forces nothing. He could conceivably tell Brentford he will only join us and no one else. But then he would be weakening his position with regards to his potential contract. I think, frustrating though it is, we’re gonna have to simply wait for this one to pan out, or offer what Brentford want. Or move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, thabucks said: Think we should pull out of negotiations myself and if we already haven’t and move on. If he really wanted to join us he would force Brentford’s hand. I get Smith wants him but there will come a time when we cannot wait for a Championship player untested in a higher league to make his decision. He might well be as anxious to get this done as we are. I think it's up to the two clubs to agree a deal and the sooner the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, thabucks said: Or move on? We don’t actually know what’s holding this up. Could be a number of things. Without knowing the reasons, I don’t think fans are best placed to advise on the next move. You’d hope that Purslow, Smith and Lange are acting in Villa’s best interests and will do what needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, thabucks said: Or move on? I think we’ve done that too often in the past, and lived to regret it.. Let’s get our first choices over the line, and not have to make do with alternatives. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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