HKP90 Posted February 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, KHV said: 13 shots on goal to 0 Awful No changes at half time as per usual Cue 2-0 Southampton and then the first change Cue 3-0 Southampton and then the second change Cue Smith moaning about VAR after the game saying the challenge on AEG should be a red card That’s a bit unfair. Smith has never hidden when we’ve played shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, hippo said: Yet another poor half from Konsa - looks like £11m down the pan - looks barley championship quality based on his last few games. He has never looked that good 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Abandon the formation, go 4-4-2 to stop their midfield dominating and FFS get Grealish in the centre because playing him on the touchline just takes our best player out of the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazmonkey Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Midfield is non existent because it's full of defensive players...you asking target and Guilbert to be attack minded when all they want to do is defend and do the occasional bomb on. This causes issue as you effectively now playing 5 at the back and are inviting the other team to attack...been happening all season...why would anyone expect anything else 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Davkaus said: 1-0 flatters us. That's among the biggest piles of shit I've had to endure over the last few years. Completely played off the park by another club at the bottom. Worst team at home, but as expected, we accommodate again. The sentiment is true, but they're hardly at the bottom ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 at the back only works if your centre backs are competent. Mings is carrying two average championship defenders in Hause and Konsa. They are mentally 3 yards off the pace with woeful reaction times and positional sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted February 22, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2020 Awful. Individually, collectively and tactically. With three centrebacks, your wing backs are supposed to join your midfield - they're not doing that for two reason, firstly only Targett is getting forward and secondly because that midfield isn't there. Luiz for me is having an absolutely appalling game - he's playing twenty yards too deep, which means we have three centre backs, two full backs and two midfielders playing on the centrebacks toes - it's a back seven - it doesn't defend well because there are too many of them and then because there are only three other players, we can't get out or keep the ball, which means we defend all the time. We either need to abandon the three in the middle or grow a pair and find a midfielder with the balls to play in midfield. There's absolutely nothing there. It's unfortunate that all of the sensible changes to this have been taken away from us because El Ghazi is injured and we've already made on sub - I'd be in favour of taking off Trezeguet and bringing on Baston with Grealish through the middle - it'd give us an "out" ball and someone in the middle of the park - I'd be in favour of removing a centre back for Hourihane so that we've got something in the middle - I'd be in favour of bringing on Elmo for a centre back and playing him on the right hand side of midfield so that Jack can go central and we can have something in the middle of the park. At the moment we're play a 7-0-3 formation and the three may as well not be there - it's simply not working. That's without the hatful of individual errors, half heartedness and lack of cohesion. We need to have periods of the game where we have the ball - and by we, I don't mean Konsa and Hause - other teams have midfields that do that job - ours needs someone like Mings to kicks them forward ten or fifteen yards to where they should be. At the moment this is diabolical. The only thing in our favour is that the scoreline doesn't reflect that; if it stays 1-0 beyond the first five minutes of the second half, anything could happen. 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, KentVillan said: Also AEG is just a pussy. Had enough of him tbh. Would rather watch Trez tripping over the ball, at least he puts his heart into it. I said that in September already. It was clear as day. He's the type of player you get relegated with. No fight primadonna. And that's before you even discuss his obvious defensive shitness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, villa89 said: Too many players in the team that are championship standard. Simple as that. 3 at the back is just papering over the cracks. It’s not even doing that now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2020 I just hope we're still fighting by the time McGinn comes back, because ths is garbage. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chindie said: Southampton will be completely embarrassed to have not put at least 3 in. We've been shite. Thanks. Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Makes no sense. Our issues are for the most part about 1) not being at the races 2) not having good enough players 3) defending First point he's already at fault at since his hte ass. coach. Second point we can't do anything about. Third point he is comically responsible (at least as much as Smith in my book). We just got to grind this out. Football sucks when it's hairy, but we knew this was the season we walked into. Despite, us all knowing it wasn't going to be a walk in the park........No one expected to concede 52 goals in 27 games.....that is bloody scandalous, in its own right. If the players are not good enough?, we bought them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips'ngravy Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Same old problem...conceding shots at a rate of knots. Should beat our average at this rate. Hause just really not up to it, I'm sad to say. Konsa not far behind him. Nakamba and Luiz has to be the weakest central mid pairing in the league. El Ghazi is a disgrace. Just didn't fancy it. We've seen it before from him. He actually looked quite reasonable when he had the ball too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Must admit i'm feeling fickle again. Hopefully by the end of the match I am back to loving Deano. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, stewiek2 said: 3 at the back only works if your centre backs are competent. Mings is carrying two average championship defenders in Hause and Konsa. They are mentally 3 yards off the pace with woeful reaction times and positional sense. Yup. We are forfeiting a whole lot while gaining precious little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Wainy316 said: But we were 13th and couldn’t buy a win until Jack came back from injury... We had arguably the best team in the league. Tammy, McGinn, Grealish, El Ghazi, Tuanzebe and later Mings. We were heavily under performing. Any manager would have improved us. He got us 5th and beat Baggies and Derby in the Play Offs. Decent achievement but nothing out of the ordinary. Not with the squad we had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Midfield completely invisible. Would drop to back 4 play hause in front of them to win the first ball or be 1st blocker to give more bite to the middle, cant see us getting much out of this if we continue with the cm pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, LondonVillian said: yea and AEG got concussion mate so we cant have a go at him. LOL patethic Indeed it is, our player Ghazi should be ashamed, I've had enough of him now, he played better when he wondered if he ever was going to get a full contract. I think it shows Southampton players mentality over ours, there guts and love for what they do, where we look oblivious to the fact were in serious trouble here and we need to sort it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2020 I'm still convinced that the reason we concede more goals and allow more shots than just about anybody isn't to do with how well or badly we defend, it's to do with how often - and that's all down to how badly we keep the ball and how much of our football we play on the edge of our own box. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Have we been trying to walk it in then? I don't even think we've got that far up the pitch mate, honestly one of our worst half's this season. How it's only 1 0 I don't know! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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