Zatman Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Nabby said: Looking at the state of Burnley tonight I can see the teams near us with them to play taking all 3 points. 4 players refusing to play because contracts expire next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, useless said: If any of our relegation rivals beat Wolves would we be really all that surprised not really no, some of them already have, lets not overhype them it's not as if they're a City or a Liverpool, they're not even on the same level as Chelsea or Leicester, they're slightly better than average, in fact they've only won four more games than us all season, which is twelve points, but the way people go on about how amazing they are and how poor we are you'd think they would have won more than eleven games versus our seven. So yes they will be strong favorites, but it woudn't exactly be an upset if we beat them. They have lost 6 games against our 18 They have conceded 34 goals against our 58 They have accrued 46 points against our 26 I think I can safely say, that if we beat them, I will be surprised......pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: We paid 14 mill for him... Let that sit... Don't ....please don't. sooner have Hutton...I think. Edited June 22, 2020 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) Not sure why you've listed all those things, I wasn't trying to claim that we are nearly as good them, just pointing out that they've only won four more games than us, they get a lot of draws. If we beat them it will be a surprise, but not some major shock. They've already dropped points this season to most of the teams near the bottom of the table, they will have similar stats compared to those teams as well. Edited June 22, 2020 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Oh God, Wolves?! They'll trash us. Two midfielders in Neves and Moutinho who are as willing as Grealish to get on the ball and ping it around all over the place, they'll have 65% possession. Three forwards who are good enough to play in a front three and defenders who will pass into midfield. We've got five games it's possible to get points in. No chance at all v Wolves, Liverpool or Utd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Wolves had all those players when they were drawing with Palace, Burnley and Southampton and losing to Everton when all those teams were struggling at the bottom of the table, they've also failed to beat Newcastle twice and Brighton twice and lost to Watford. Yes they will be favorites to beat us, and that's the most likely outcome, , but I think they must be one of most overrated teams in recent times I know they've done well but people talk about them as if they're champions league regulars or something.... Looking at the past ten seasons and where their current 46 points would see them after 30 games... 7th 14 points off top four 7th 17 points off top four 8th 18 points off top four 7th 6 points off top four 8th 16 points off top four 8th 17 points off top four 7th 9 points off top four 7th 9 points off top four 6th 7 points off top four 9th 9 points off top four So I guess on average around seventh place, but most seasons they wouldn't be anywhere near the champions league places with the points total they have now, interesting to note in that final season ten years back it was small heath who were in nineth place under Mcleish wth 44 points, just two less points than Wolves have now, we were on 51 points, we'd be in the top four at the moment with that total this season as we had a better goal difference than Chelsea have at the moment... Sad see how we've fallen, and it's starting to feel like a permanent thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNVillan Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, useless said: Sad see how we've fallen, and it's starting to feel like a permanent thing. I’m only 7 years old in my fandom, but I can’t help but feeling the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted June 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, MNVillan said: I’m only 7 years old in my fandom, but I can’t help but feeling the same. Seven years watching this shower of shit? So you've literally never seen us be good. And you're from Minnesota? Do they not have dominatrixes in your city or something? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Yes I used to think it wouldn't take much to get us at least challenging as one of the best of rest teams, and that's probably still true, the likes of Wolves, Burnley, Watford, Everton, Southampton, Sheffield Unted and Swansea have all occupied that postion in recent seasons, but for whatever reason no matter what we try we seem to fail, every transfer window people get excited by the new signings but rarely do they help the team to achieve it's utlimate goals, same with new managers always seem to end up in disappontment. One decent appointment could turn our fortunes around though,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNVillan Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Seven years watching this shower of shit? So you've literally never seen us be good. And you're from Minnesota? Do they not have dominatrixes in your city or something? I spend my US Sports time watching the Vikings and other Minnesota sports. I’m used to heartbreak. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted June 23, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, MNVillan said: I’m only 7 years old in my fandom, but I can’t help but feeling the same. I can sympathise. I've been a fan for much longer than 7 years, but my 19 year old son hasn't. He's never seen us be "good". Ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips'ngravy Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 My feelings towards the remainder of this season are similar to those at the back-end of 2016. It's not the toxic mess we had then but the football isn't far off those levels. We're clearly going down. I just want it to be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) I am an older fan and yeah, this feels permanent to me too. With notable exceptions (like Grealish) most of the club has accepted being second rate as their lot. Gone are the days of expecting to win premier league games, we used to you know. Now we are always the underdog in a league we co founded. A club thats won the top club football honours in the world, reduced to trying to nick a point here and there to avoid relegation against no mark clubs we brushed aside in the past. A club with no style, no flair or tactical philosophy or ability to win games, just flailing from one mediocre manager to the next. I wish i could see the ownership radically changing and taking a more modern and winning approach, but sadly they seem well meaning but ultimately unable to make the same hard decisions the previous owners were. Edited June 23, 2020 by ciggiesnbeer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 hours ago, MNVillan said: I spend my US Sports time watching the Vikings and other Minnesota sports. I’m used to heartbreak. In 7 years you got to see our record winning streak and a playoff final win - you're doing pretty well. Before then, all we'd had since 1996 was a few good seasons and the peace cup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: A club with no style, no flair or tactical philosophy or ability to win games, just flailing from one mediocre manager to the next. This is what gets me. What is our identity? I got no clue. Smith keeps mentioning getting the ball to Grealish more. Stop Grealish and you stop Villa. Everything goes through Jack. There is no style of play. 1 point out of the last 21 and we are expecting minimum 10 from 24. Let's get real. Edited June 23, 2020 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, MNVillan said: I’m only 7 years old in my fandom, but I can’t help but feeling the same. stick with it my friend - the only way is up !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 hours ago, chips'ngravy said: My feelings towards the remainder of this season are similar to those at the back-end of 2016. It's not the toxic mess we had then but the football isn't far off those levels. We're clearly going down. I just want it to be over. I'll be in very much the same boat if we don't beat Newcastle. Based on our respective Sheffield Utd performances you better make some room, I'll take the right oar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 10 hours ago, useless said: If we can just ignore the rest of the season that happened months back, and treat the last ten games as it's own seperate season This is absolutely right, I really expected us to come out super pumped up, chasing down every scrap of a chance. Keenan looked up for it against Sheffield United but everyone else seems to be comfortable being passengers. This is what worries me. Even Jack hasn’t been his usual 1 man army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Genie said: This is absolutely right, I really expected us to come out super pumped up, chasing down every scrap of a chance. Keenan looked up for it against Sheffield United but everyone else seems to be comfortable being passengers. This is what worries me. Even Jack hasn’t been his usual 1 man army. If i was a player i would be frustrated as hell with the tactics against Chelsea. This team's strengths isn't to defend, the season stats proves it. Still don't understand why he set us up like that. We played into their hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 23, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2020 We had only just assembled a squad for this league, we were short in many areas but had they all stayed fit (an impossible ask in any season) - then we would not be in the relegation spots IMHO. Our downfall is/was getting promoted so quickly with the squad we had - I see it as sown in to our promotion so I can't be too miserable about it. When it is confirmed, maybe the time will be then to talk about it in more detail but it appears to me that we will (in all honesty) be the richest most able to spend club in the championship. Bournemouth with their wage bill will be devastated by relegation, Norwich just banked the cash so should be ok - but hardly going to waste that money. We on the other hand will have player sales, written-off FFP allowances, and parachute payments. If there's a sniff of a player willing to play in that league, we will be front of the queue. Might need a new manager though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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