KenjiOgiwara Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 AFAIK it's produced by Gilead and isn't a vaccine but a medicine that shortens the effects of the virus by a week or so. That's what I read on seeking alpha a few days ago anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: AFAIK it's produced by Gilead and isn't a vaccine but a medicine that shortens the effects of the virus by a week or so. That's what I read on seeking alpha a few days ago anyway. This is correct, it's not a vaccine. It's a treatment. There is no vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 TBF the USA is going to need a lot more of the treatment as they are going to have the majority of cases world wide with the current trajectory. It's an odd strategy as the chances of them being able to deliver it to where it is needed and administer it on the scale required is virtually 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: The fact that they could see how the virus affected the world. They were warned. They ignored it. Then they got affected by it. Chose to ignore it some more. Shit hits the fan. And now they are buying up medication like there's no tomorrow. Such a well run classy country. God damn banana republic. You stay classy, San Diego. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 At what point do we close down meat processing plants for 3 weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) FT don't like copying bits of text, but key points from the story: There are claims that staff at factories in Leicester supplying Boohoo were told to come to work 'despite testing positively for coronavirus' There are also claims that these factories are operating without social distancing measures in place Also that some furloughed workers were told they would not receive government support unless they continued coming to work Workers at some of these factories receive as little as £3.50/hour Boohoo are expecting revenues to rise 25% this year Edited July 1, 2020 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 1, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 hours ago, chrisp65 said: At what point do we close down meat processing plants for 3 weeks? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 In light of the above, maybe we could start talking about *employers* when we think about blame. Even putting them on the paper as an option would be an improvement . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 This study from Sweden is very interesting and potentially explains why the case numbers and deaths have fallen so dramatically here despite no change in social restrictions throughout the pandemic. It might also explain why the medical department were so shocked to find such a small number of people testing as having antibodies when their modelling expected a much much higher proportion of the country to have had it. Possibly also good news for places like London or New York who had large outbreaks already. (the article notes that it’s been submitted for peer review but has not yet been peer reviewed). Quote New research from Karolinska Institutet and Karolinska University Hospital shows that many people with mild or asymptomatic COVID-19 demonstrate so-called T-cell-mediated immunity to the new coronavirus, even if they have not tested positively for antibodies. According to the researchers, this means that public immunity is probably higher than antibody tests suggest. https://news.ki.se/immunity-to-covid-19-is-probably-higher-than-tests-have-shown?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=kasocial&utm_content=Immunity to COVID-19 is probably higher than tests have shown&fbclid=IwAR2q3NlCLbHeKnTpG6ko67e4qxFspYhcbSgiT7fTfoquU-ZXHoaq9yw7fUM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 The number of cases in Region West (Gothenburg and that area in Sweden) has doubled after the graduation week when the schools closed, a few weeks back. Especially cases with young people have increased a lot apparently. The doctor in charge there says that student celebrations is likely the biggest cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 2, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2020 Why didn't we think of this? (Not that the average Brit would have taken any notice). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I actually think people would have taken quite a lot of notice, and now you've got me wondering why we didn't do that in parks, whether it is a question of 'not thinking of it', whether it is that councils decided against it for some reason, or whether they just didn't have the capacity to do it in any organised way. (I don't have an answer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 2, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2020 In some areas of Sutton Park (one area in particular which tends to get very busy) they appeared to have mown the grass in strips, with a couple of metres of long, un mown grass in between. I don't know if that was a coincidence but my suspicion was it was to ensure if people sat down they had two metres between them. Can't really say if it worked or not, and obviously the park is huge so plenty of other areas you could sit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: In some areas of Sutton Park (one area in particular which tends to get very busy) they appeared to have mown the grass in strips, with a couple of metres of long, un mown grass in between. I don't know if that was a coincidence but my suspicion was it was to ensure if people sat down they had two metres between them. Can't really say if it worked or not, and obviously the park is huge so plenty of other areas you could sit It might be to introduce wild flowers/ insects to the park most likely. Unless it's pretty obvious, but that's a thing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 Still an awful lot of fear of infection vs fear of death. It is quite interesting how we have moved from one to the other in contrast to what the data is telling us. Humans, we are such interesting creatures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 2, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 28/06/2020 at 19:38, Chindie said: Schools are community disease pools. The only reason there's a desire to get the schools back is to get people back to work and try to roll back as much as possible the fear of the virus Even if that fear is well founded. And even with the scientific community shouting from the rooftops that we're not far from things going south fast again. There is an element of that definitely but also the kids want to go back to meet their friends play with their friends and generally get back to some kind of normality themselves, It has been a real problem for my two not being able to socialise as young teenagers as these are very formative years In their development from children into adults Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 4 hours ago, mjmooney said: Why didn't we think of this? (Not that the average Brit would have taken any notice). Germans just seem to do absolutely everything better than us don't they. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 2, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, lapal_fan said: It might be to introduce wild flowers/ insects to the park most likely. Unless it's pretty obvious, but that's a thing now. Yeah maybe. But would be a bit of an odd place to do that. And Sutton park probably isn’t short of wild flowers and insects to be fair. but who knows. That’s probably a better explanation than social distancing to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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