bannedfromHandV Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Same questions today. Every day. What’s the exit strategy, how long will it last, hows the PM blah blah blah I could do Raab’s job for this hour. We don’t know how long it will last, we need to see the data, we don’t know how long it will last, we have to obey the measures for now, we’ll review it regularly, the PM is stable Its like watching a repeat Would it be better or worse to have total transparency I wonder, whatever that transparency is. We all know for sure that we’re kept largely in the dark on all key matters, I guess in terms of maintaining social order it’s easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, LondonLax said: There is also a very real possibility that there will never be a vaccine, we have been looking for a vaccine for the cold for decades. Well this is what I thought recently, and I think posted some time back. But flu is also part of the same family of virus (I think) and yet there’s an annual jab available for that......I don’t even know what the jab does, does it make you immune from flu or just less likely to suffer from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: Would it be better or worse to have total transparency I wonder, whatever that transparency is. We all know for sure that we’re kept largely in the dark on all key matters, I guess in terms of maintaining social order it’s easier. I don’t really care about that. I just want them to stop asking the same questions when they know the answers will be the same. Why ask them how long this will last when you know they’re just going to say they don’t know and they’ll keep reviewing it and to stick to the rules for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: @Spoony @Xela Ok if you must continue with your ‘bespoke lifestyle’ choices, at least take precautions. Wear gloves when shit pickin’ and try to at least boil the urine before consumption. Otherwise crack on Just a quick word of warning to anyone thinking of microwaving a turd. Don't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Just a quick word of warning to anyone thinking of microwaving a turd. Don't. You seem to speak from experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Well this is what I thought recently, and I think posted some time back. But flu is also part of the same family of virus (I think) and yet there’s an annual jab available for that......I don’t even know what the jab does, does it make you immune from flu or just less likely to suffer from it? The flu jab gives you an immunity to a few strains of flu that research indicates will be the more common strains each year. The flu (and cold) viruses constantly change so you can never be truly immune to it, and it's why there's never been a vaccine for it that offers full immunity, because the virus is constantly in flux. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Just a quick word of warning to anyone thinking of microwaving a turd. Don't. Top tip there My advice is to flame grill it in a paper bag, but leave it on a neighbours doorstep so the smoke doesn’t float near your own house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 My thoughts are they will have a vaccine, just cant put a date on it. Rumour has it, there are already a few under test by the major manufacturers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, LondonLax said: There is also a very real possibility that there will never be a vaccine, we have been looking for a vaccine for the cold for decades. True. It shows how delicately balanced our current lifestyles are, at any time a new virus could emerge that we can’t vaccinate against. Add that to the growing threat of antimicrobial resistance and it we have the potential for mass disruption of the way we live our lives in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, LondonLax said: There is also a very real possibility that there will never be a vaccine, we have been looking for a vaccine for the cold for decades. True, but a cold vaccine isn't a priority. Its not a killer. Most people go about their daily duties with a cold. Edited April 7, 2020 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Xela said: True, but a cold vaccine isn't a priority. Its not a killer. Most people go about their daily duties with a cold. It’s a priority in the sense that whoever invented a vaccine would make a lot of money. We’ve never been able to find a vaccine for Aids either. Some virus’s we can’t seem to crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Chindie said: The flu jab gives you an immunity to a few strains of flu that research indicates will be the more common strains each year. The flu (and cold) viruses constantly change so you can never be truly immune to it, and it's why there's never been a vaccine for it that offers full immunity, because the virus is constantly in flux. There are companies currently working on and, apparently, close to finding a universal flu vaccine. I only know this because I’m watching Pandemic on Netflix (which is scarily prophetic!) Edited April 7, 2020 by Morley_crosses_to_Withe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 FFS, David Icke has been at the bleach again.... Mr Icke also falsely claimed that a coronavirus vaccine, when one is developed, will include "nanotechnology microchips" that would allow humans to be controlled. He added that Bill Gates - who is helping fund Covid-19 vaccine research - should be jailed. His views went unchallenged for much of the two-and-a-half-hour show. Coronavirus: YouTube tightens rules after David Icke 5G interview https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52198946 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, LondonLax said: It’s a priority in the sense that whoever invented a vaccine would make a lot of money. We’ve never been able to find a vaccine for Aids either. Some virus’s we can’t seem to crack. Haven't a few people been cured of HIV? I think it was down to stem cells. They can certainly manage the disease far better then they used to, which means most can lead normal lives. They will crack Covid19, its just a matter of time IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Icke is a word removed and he attracts words removed to his message. The only positive is that this nonsense allows people to flag themselves up as words removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, Xela said: Haven't a few people been cured of HIV? I think it was down to stem cells. They can certainly manage the disease far better then they used to, which means most can lead normal lives. They will crack Covid19, its just a matter of time IMO There’s no vaccine for HIV but there are now treatments available for those who contract the virus, they took about 30 years of medical research to develop. I think the most likely way this plays out is that most of us get it over the next couple of years and we do our best to nurse those who are badly affected through it. Once over 60% of the population have had it the virus struggles to find new hosts and dies out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: My thoughts are they will have a vaccine, just cant put a date on it. Rumour has it, there are already a few under test by the major manufacturers. If it's a stable virus then a vaccine is perfectly possible, though not certain - there's plenty of viruses we know inside out but haven't developed treatments against. We don't know what this virus does long term or what it's effects are in full, if anything. And then there's the issue with vaccines that they can sometimes have side effects (no, not the MMR thing). Rushing a vaccine to market might be storing to another disaster up for tomorrow. If it mutates the way flu viruses do, then I'd bet against a vaccine, which is a a nightmare scenario for the foreseeable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Xela said: Haven't a few people been cured of HIV? I think it was down to stem cells. They can certainly manage the disease far better then they used to, which means most can lead normal lives. They will crack Covid19, its just a matter of time IMO Yes. I think I read about one case in London at thestart of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) Trouble in testing land ... the Germans who are developing their own sensitive kits believe they are three months away from getting these available and validated. No test has been acclaimed by health authorities as having the necessary characteristics for screening people accurately for protective immunity. Having been collectively spoofed by the Chinese antibody testing scam, it seems no one is even close to a reliable version yet. Edited April 7, 2020 by Awol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, PaulC said: 786 is the figure on bbc news 2 hours ago, It's Your Round said: It’s 786 here too UK 55,242 +3,634 6,159 +786 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries So, I think NHS England have posted 758 deaths Between 5pm 5th and 5pm 6th, that is ‘todays’ figure. Its on the NHS England website. Scotland has reported 74, Wales 19, Norn Iron 3. I make that 854 deaths in hospital. I’m going by NHS numbers, not BBC or worldometers. But even those figures are estimates with lots of caveats and exclude deaths at home or in prison etc.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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