Generic Virus Thread

[Mozzavfc]

1 hour ago, Xela said:

Haven't a few people been cured of HIV? I think it was down to stem cells. They can certainly manage the disease far better then they used to, which means most can lead normal lives. They will crack Covid19, its just a matter of time IMO

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51804454

[chrisp65]

How are those Dyson ventilators getting on?

[Mic09]

12 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

How are those Dyson ventilators getting on?

Apparently they suck

[sharkyvilla]

I wouldn't want to be one of the first to test them.  Talk about Dyson with death. 

 

[sidcow]

30 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

How are those Dyson ventilators getting on?

Style above substance if anything like other Dyson products. 

[sidcow]

1 hour ago, Awol said:

Trouble in testing land

 

 

Having been collectively spoofed by the Chinese antibody testing scam, it seems no one is even close to a reliable version yet. 

Yes whatever, but why haven't the Evil Government bought a billion of them yet? Should have seen the lack of an adequate test coming and invented them at least 6 months ago. 

[Awol]

This is interesting, seems the reproductive rate of the virus is much higher than predicted. Guessing this means they’ll have to stamp it right out before any real reduction in social distancing measures, then be much stricter about incoming international travel. 

 

[Genie]

2 minutes ago, Awol said:

This is interesting, seems the reproductive rate of the virus is much higher than predicted. Guessing this means they’ll have to stamp it right out before any real reduction in social distancing measures, then be much stricter about incoming international travel. 

 

Ouch, 4 times more contagious and no cure. 

[sidcow]

3 hours ago, LondonLax said:

There is also a very real possibility that there will never be a vaccine, we have been looking for a vaccine for the cold for decades. 

You could create a vaccine for the cold now, its just that there are billions of types of the common cold so a vaccine for a single strain would be pointless. 

The flu vaccine is different every year and only covers the most common ones in circulation the year before. They effectively have to identify next year's big thing. 2 or 3 years ago there was a bit of a hoo-ha when they missed one so quite a common flu was not part of the vaccine meaning we could have had a similar situation to now, but it didn't get out of hand.   That probably illustrates how much more contagious Coronavirus is compared to flu. 

Coronavirus only has a couple of strains currently so I think they will easily create a vaccine. The issue is how quickly / easily it mutates.  If its a slippery sucker we might have to have annual Coronavirus vaccine as well as an annual Flu vaccine and again will probably be aimed only at the vulnerable so the fit and healthy can take their chances. 

[sidcow]

3 hours ago, It's Your Round said:

That WHO link also says that virus remains stable in faeces and urine at room temperature for 1-2 days. 
 

Please protect yourselves and don’t handle any street turds, or drink any piss. It’s for your own good. 

Well that's my long Easter Weekend ruined.  

[Villarocker]

My concern is about letting my guard down. The doctor says I've had the virus but I've had no test done so he can't be 100% sure although I'm pretty certain I've had it. However, there are some horror stories like the 44 yera old Asthmatic woman who thought she was over it then ended up in hospital where she died. I'm coughing and it's leaving me short of breath so I'm taking it as easy as possible until I'm back to normal again - no chances taken. 

Also, there was some news yesterday about 51 South Koreans that had the virus, got over it, then were tested positive again. They reckon the virus sleeps in you then starts up again. Now that is scary! 

[chrisp65]

 

 

[Awol]

Special Report: Johnson listened to his scientists about coronavirus - but they were slow to sound the alarm

If unconstrained and if the virus behaved as in China, up to four-fifths of Britons could be infected and one in a hundred might die, wrote the scientists, members of an official committee set up to model the spread of pandemic flu, on March 2. Their assessment didn’t spell it out, but that was a prediction of over 500,000 deaths in this nation of nearly 70 million. 

Yet the next day, March 3, Prime Minister Boris Johnson was his cheery self. He joked that he was still shaking hands with everyone, including at a hospital treating coronavirus patients. 

“Our country remains extremely well prepared,” Johnson said as Italy reached 79 deaths. “We already have a fantastic NHS,” the national public health service, “fantastic testing systems and fantastic surveillance of the spread of disease.” 

Alongside him at the Downing Street press conference was Chris Whitty, the government’s chief medical adviser and himself an epidemiologist. Whitty passed on the modelling committee’s broad conclusions, including the prediction of a possible 80% infection rate and the consequent deaths. But he played them down, saying the number of people who would be infected was probably “a lot lower” and coming up with a total was “largely speculative.” 

The upbeat tone of that briefing stood in sharp contrast with the growing unease of many of the government’s scientific advisers behind the scenes. They were already convinced that Britain was on the brink of a disastrous outbreak, a Reuters investigation has found.

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Much more on link

This is a really detailed and balanced look at how we got here, and maybe where we’re going. Worth a read. 

[sne]

Jeepers! 

 

[sne]

Meanwhile Trump is cutting funds for the WHO and has gone full on A Flock of Seagulls with his hair.

[markavfc40]

1 hour ago, Awol said:

Special Report: Johnson listened to his scientists about coronavirus - but they were slow to sound the alarm

 

This is a really detailed and balanced look at how we got here, and maybe where we’re going. Worth a read. 

Highly recommend reading this. Cheers for posting @Awol

If true Whitty and others certainly seem to have played down the threat at the start and we took too long to raise the threat levels which left us unprepared and playing catch up.

Going forward it seems that though there may be short periods where the measures we are under now will be relaxed a little it is going to be sometime before we get back to anything like normal.

Edited April 7, 2020 by markavfc40

[Jareth]

Government have been promising 100,000 tests per day by end of the month. Remember this figure in 3 weeks time, it won't even be a quarter of that. 

[mikeyp102]

10 minutes ago, markavfc40 said:

Highly recommend reading this. Cheers for posting @Awol

Whitty certainly seems to have played down the threat at the start and we took too long to raise the threat levels which left us unprepared and playing catch up.

Going forward it seems that though there may be short periods where the measures we are under now will be relaxed a little it is going to be sometime before we get back to anything like normal.

Personally don’t see the point in lifting some measures. You’ll still get idiots who take it too far. May as well leave things as they are until it’s all cleared, as it’ll likely go back to this anyway once rules are relaxed 

[legov]

8 hours ago, chrisp65 said:

 

 

So, I think NHS England have posted 758 deaths Between 5pm 5th and 5pm 6th, that is ‘todays’ figure. Its on the NHS England website. Scotland has reported 74, Wales 19, Norn Iron 3.

I make that 854 deaths in hospital. 

I’m going by NHS numbers, not BBC or worldometers.

But even those figures are estimates with lots of caveats and exclude deaths at home or in prison etc..

 

Stupendous

[LondonLax]

5 hours ago, mikeyp102 said:

Personally don’t see the point in lifting some measures. You’ll still get idiots who take it too far. May as well leave things as they are until it’s all cleared, as it’ll likely go back to this anyway once rules are relaxed 

There won’t be an economy to come back to...