Generic Virus Thread

[sharkyvilla]

Andrew Cuomo always comes across well whenever I see him doing his Covid briefings, certainly compared to most other American politicians I've seen in recent years.

[PaulC]

786 is the figure on bbc news 

[It's Your Round]

It’s 786 here too 

UK

55,242

+3,634

6,159

+786

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

 

[markavfc40]

In Wincosin in USA the Democratic Primary election is going ahead today and people are having to go out and vote. The Democratic governor wanted to postpone them until June but was opposed by Republicans who took it to supreme court.

With some polling stations having to close voters are now having to queue at those that remain open. 

You couldn't make this shit up could you. Those that are in power are meant to be setting the example.

[It's Your Round]

My worry about all of this is that when things go back to ‘normal’, we have a second peak. It’s happened before, with the Spanish flu for example. It’s going to be really hard to stop it spreading again until we get a vaccine. That might not be for another year yet. 

[It's Your Round]

2 minutes ago, markavfc40 said:

In Wincosin in USA the Democratic Primary election is going ahead today and people are having to go out and vote. The Democratic governor wanted to postpone them until June but was opposed by Republicans who took it to supreme court.

With some polling stations having to close voters are now having to queue at those that remain open. 

You couldn't make this shit up could you. Those that are in power are meant to be setting the example.

Those that are in power just want to stay in power, at all costs. It’s shocking but not surprising. 

[Rodders]

7 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

With 800+ people dying a day are we going to manage to stay under 20,000 total deaths? It looks unlikely. 

it depends on how well the peak is managed. Get equipment in, test people and use all these extra spaces being built then the numbers will tail away. At the current rate we'd be hitting 20,000 within in 3 weeks (21 days @ c.750 per day = 15750  to add onto the 6k there are now, but it will tail off before then numbers wise. how quickly it tails off who knows, but I suspect that 20k number will be reached if not by May then by June

[foreveryoung]

1 minute ago, It's Your Round said:

My worry about all of this is that when things go back to ‘normal’, we have a second peak. It’s happened before, with the Spanish flu for example. It’s going to be really hard to stop it spreading again until we get a vaccine. That might not be for another year yet. 

It's a Corona virus like SARS. People are hoping its come at the right time just before the summer, so hopefully it will die out like SARS did too. But we will wait an see?

[Rodders]

2 minutes ago, It's Your Round said:

My worry about all of this is that when things go back to ‘normal’, we have a second peak. It’s happened before, with the Spanish flu for example. It’s going to be really hard to stop it spreading again until we get a vaccine. That might not be for another year yet. 

There will be a second growth, at some point, because they will have to ease restrictions at some point once the NHS have managed the first wave. We can't be in lockdown for a year, there will be more deaths from unintended consequences like not treating other illness, etc.  Next time around there will be more equipment and space ready, so more people will have a greater chance of surviving so the numbers won't be as drastic. 

[DCJonah]

6 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

It's a Corona virus like SARS. People are hoping its come at the right time just before the summer, so hopefully it will die out like SARS did too. But we will wait an see?

I'm not sure we can compare it to SARS. 

Didnt SARS kill less than 800 people worldwide? We're now close to 80,000 people for this in just 5 months.  

[It's Your Round]

3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

It's a Corona virus like SARS. People are hoping its come at the right time just before the summer, so hopefully it will die out like SARS did too. But we will wait an see?

That’s the hope, but I don’t think there’s any proven research that shows the virus would be eradicated at normal summer temps. 
 

Some early research reported by WHO, says: 

“Heat at 56°C kills the SARS coronavirus at around 10000 units per 15 min (quick reduction).”

https://www.who.int/csr/sars/survival_2003_05_04/en/
 

Whether our 25°c summer is enough to have an impact, I’m not sure. 

[Stevo985]

13 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

It's a Corona virus like SARS. People are hoping its come at the right time just before the summer, so hopefully it will die out like SARS did too. But we will wait an see?

SARS was far easier to contain. It wasn’t the heat that caused it to die out (or at least not the main reason)

Covid will be far harder to do that with

Edited April 7, 2020 by Stevo985

[It's Your Round]

That WHO link also says that virus remains stable in faeces and urine at room temperature for 1-2 days. 
 

Please protect yourselves and don’t handle any street turds, or drink any piss. It’s for your own good. 

[Chindie]

SARS died out because we quickly discovered that it was particularly infectious late in its infection, which meant you could isolate the most infectious people at the right time and basically let the virus burn out.

This isn't. It's infectious seemingly within a very short period of being infected and is infectious prior to showing symptoms, which has combined with it being very contagious it seems. So it spreads easily, and effectively.

[Stevo985]

Just now, Chindie said:

SARS died out because we quickly discovered that it was particularly infectious late in its infection, which meant you could isolate the most infectious people at the right time and basically let the virus burn out.

This isn't. It's infectious seemingly within a very short period of being infected and is infectious prior to showing symptoms, which has combined with it being very contagious it seems. So it spreads easily, and effectively.

Exactly. Which is why any conspiracy around why covid spreads faster than SARS is easily dispelled 

Edited April 7, 2020 by Stevo985

[Stevo985]

Same questions today. Every day. 
 

What’s the exit strategy, how long will it last, hows the PM

 

blah blah blah

 

I could do Raab’s job for this hour. 
 

We don’t know how long it will last, we need to see the data, we don’t know how long it will last, we have to obey the measures for now, we’ll review it regularly, the PM is stable

 

Its like watching a repeat

[Spoony]

13 minutes ago, It's Your Round said:

That WHO link also says that virus remains stable in faeces and urine at room temperature for 1-2 days. 
 

Please protect yourselves and don’t handle any street turds, or drink any piss. It’s for your own good. 

Don’t tell me how to live my life. We all have hobbies. 

[Xela]

16 minutes ago, It's Your Round said:

Please protect yourselves and don’t handle any street turds, or drink any piss. It’s for your own good. 

FFS! Can't we have any fun anymore?

First the pubs close, now this. Its worse than North Korea

Edited April 7, 2020 by Xela

[It's Your Round]

@Spoony @Xela

Ok if you must continue with your ‘bespoke lifestyle’ choices, at least take precautions. Wear gloves when shit pickin’ and try to at least boil the urine before consumption. 
 

Otherwise crack on 

[LondonLax]

51 minutes ago, It's Your Round said:

My worry about all of this is that when things go back to ‘normal’, we have a second peak. It’s happened before, with the Spanish flu for example. It’s going to be really hard to stop it spreading again until we get a vaccine. That might not be for another year yet. 

There is also a very real possibility that there will never be a vaccine, we have been looking for a vaccine for the cold for decades.