Kingman Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 This HanCock fella sure dose live up to his name! Mumbling clearing in the woods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2020 It feels like having set up a scenario in principle yesterday that the press conference today is based around an assumption that isn't actually happening out on the streets of the country. They're talking about a UK with nobody on the streets and it just isn't like that. it's incredibly worrying when the policy makers on the control of this start to become detached from its reality. Nothing that's been put in place so far actually seems to be working - the 80% wage isn't available yet and isn't clear, the "lockdown" has so many exceptions that it isn't a lockdown, we're still short on testing and on PPE and there's still no real consequence demonstrated on behaviours. I'm increasingly worried. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Conf Call 8:30am tomorrow. Must remember to set the alarm for 8:20. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jareth said: If this were true, it would obviously be very good news, but at this stage it is an *extremely* speculative claim that is orders of magnitude higher than everyone else's estimates, so people should treat it with a lot of skpeticism (though I look forward to them presenting further data in the weeks ahead). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: the 80% wage isn't available yet and isn't clear I suspect thats why I'm on reduced hours, they don't want to lose me (or any of my colleagues) but they really can't afford to pay me in full, they could if the 80% was in and accessible, I'm just hoping for clarity on that in the next 4 weeks I'm also not holding my breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Had conference call this morning. Our company even though reminding us they will lose £45 million a month is closing fully, so now I dont even have home work to do. That being we have been told to apply via Email for the 80% salary and say where possible they will make up the 20%. I think they are hoping 3 weeks max. All the relevant try and keep everyone in a job blah blah, blah, but I think this is as good as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 @Villarocker Get well soon mate! Keep yourself hydrated even if you don't feel like it and I'm sure you'll fight it off in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: It's okay, I have no plans to visit Barry so they're safe from big bad me. You don’t understand how this works do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 London to follow Vienna and turn convention centre into mega hospital to treat COVID-19 patients? https://www.exhibitionworld.co.uk/uk-media-reports-london-preparing-to-follow-vienna-and-turn-convention-centre-into-mega-hospital-to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Are these tests actually going to be a thing? Would be interesting to see how they decide who they test and who they don't. Yep, millions have been purchased, so they said, a few days ago - apparantly very easy and quick to test if you have had it, will inform government policy going forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Another 743 dead in Italy in the last 24h. So after dropping a bit in the last 2 days it goes up quite a bit again today. More than 6800 dead in Italy now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, sne said: Another 743 dead in Italy in the last 24h. So after dropping a bit in the last 2 days it goes up quite a bit again today. More than 6800 dead in Italy now. That's ok though because @bannedfromHandV isn't going to Barry. Sick 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villarocker Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 Thanks for all the best wishes guys. I really appreciate it and it's uplifting to see such warmth from a load of people I have never met at a time when I'm isolated in a bedroom. My 6 year old son keeps popping up the stairs to ask how I am and if it's gone yet. It's a grounding experience. 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, bickster said: I suspect thats why I'm on reduced hours, they don't want to lose me (or any of my colleagues) but they really can't afford to pay me in full, they could if the 80% was in and accessible, I'm just hoping for clarity on that in the next 4 weeks I'm also not holding my breath Been looking at it for our company .. it’s a bit of a minefield . At face value it appears that you have to put your staff at risk of redundancy in order to qualify for the grant , if you just decide to pay them even on reduced hours then you won’t get the grant money. we are now in effect a company with zero income for the foreseeable future . We’ve told everyone to work from home in so much as monitoring emails , handling queries and keeping things ticking over until we can return to work , but the implication from that is we then have to pay them (obviously ) but with zero income we are looking at a lose of around £250k over the next 3 months ...however , if we notify them they are at risk of redundancy we should be eligible to furlough them and pay them 80% , the difficulty of course is that we then have to instruct them not to work , so no client management or monitoring of emails and nobody to sign off the outstanding claims and invoices for people we owe money to etc ... so pay them and go bankrupt or don’t pay them and have potentially nothing to come back to thankfully we have an employment law firm that we use and they are on the case trying to work it all out for us but short term it’s very tricky ... and that’s before we get to the 400 or so “workers” that carry out projects for us on an ad hoc basis...they are kind of self employed but we pay them via PAYE but they aren’t our staff and work for maybe half a dozen companies ) currently a lot of these people are ringing asking when they will get their 80% and thinking that we are profiteering on the back of them when we try to explain we don’t know yet if they are eligible and there isn’t actually any money yet Edited March 24, 2020 by tonyh29 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighavfc Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Villarocker said: Thanks for all the best wishes guys. I really appreciate it and it's uplifting to see such warmth from a load of people I have never met at a time when I'm isolated in a bedroom. My 6 year old son keeps popping up the stairs to ask how I am and if it's gone yet. It's a grounding experience. Keep strong fella, keep posting we will all be here to listen and chat! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 With regards to the testing, I really hope I get one soon after this. I spoke with my director today. He said he will pay me for the week I should be off but if I take any longer it is SSP. I asked about the 80% thing from the government and he said that would only kick in if the government forces the business to close. He said then he could put all jobs at risk and claim the 80% for everyone. Anyone know if that's true? I was also told by my GP that I may well get one of those shielding notifications this week which would make me stay at home for 12 weeks. Anyone know if you still have to do that if you've already had the virus? Matt Hancock said that people should be immune once they've had it, hence I want a kit after this so I can be cleared to work again and not take 12 weeks off on SSP. One other thing bothers me. They keep going on about the crowded tubes. What about the rest of the commuters around the country going to and from work on buses and trains? Do they not get any consideration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighavfc Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Been looking at it for our company .. it’s a bit of a minefield . At face value it appears that you have to put your staff at risk of redundancy in order to qualify for the grant , if you just decide to pay them even on reduced hours then you won’t get the grant money. we are now in effect a company with zero income for the foreseeable future . We’ve told everyone to work from home in so much as monitoring emails , handling queries and keeping things ticking over until we can return to work , but the implication from that is we then have to pay them (obviously ) but with zero income we are looking at a lose of around £250k over the next 3 months ...however , if we notify them they are at risk of redundancy we should be eligible to furlough them and pay them 80% , the difficulty of course is that we then have to instruct them not to work , so no client management or monitoring of emails and nobody to sign off the outstanding claims and invoices for people we owe money to etc ... so pay them and go bankrupt or don’t pay them and have potentially nothing to come back to thankfully we have an employment law firm that we use and they are on the case trying to work it all out for us but short term it’s very tricky ... and that’s before we get to the 400 or so “workers” that carry out projects for us on an ad hoc basis...they are kind of self employed but we pay them via PAYE but they aren’t our staff and work for maybe half a dozen companies ) currently a lot of these people are ringing asking when they will get their 80% and thinking that we are profiteering on the back of them when we try to explain we don’t know yet if they are eligible and there isn’t actually any money yet I dont think the portal is even up yet is it? My uncle is hoping it's up soon otherwise he is either having to lay off or shut completely for weeks on end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2020 Our company has deferred everybody’s annual merit pay rise. I’m sure they’d have deferred our bonuses if this had happened a few weeks earlier. That’s not a complaint. I totally understand it and still consider myself very lucky to still have a job. I think most people will think the same. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 49 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Conf Call 8:30am tomorrow. Must remember to set the alarm for 8:20. 8:20!?!?! Amateur. 8:29! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Remember to look professional when working from home Edited March 24, 2020 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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