ciggiesnbeer Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, New_Hope said: What the **** has the world come to?? So now only black men have huge members then? Jesus Christ!! The world changed and we decided to treat each other better. If I inadvertently said something which is hostile to a large portion of our support I would like a friendly fan to politely let me know. Again, I am not a mod to feel free to ignore me if you think I am talking nonsense. I am just asking you to reconsider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Hope Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, ciggiesnbeer said: The world changed and we decided to treat each other better. If I inadvertently said something which is hostile to a large portion of our support I would like a friendly fan to politely let me know. Again, I am not a mod to feel free to ignore me if you think I am talking nonsense. I am just asking you to reconsider. Just think you're being over sensitive now almost for the sake of it. Having a joke about the size of a willy has nothing to do with stereotyping or anything else. I suggest you search Peter North or Danny D if you think it is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, New_Hope said: Just think you're being over sensitive now almost for the sake of it. Having a joke about the size of a willy has nothing to do with stereotyping or anything else. I suggest you search Peter North or Danny D if you think it is! Ok. I will note black players disagree (see Lukaku). But anyway thanks for reading and considering my request. Cheers! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 It wouldn't hurt to look into the history of the stereotype. Perhaps if lucky, one might even glean the reason some people might find it offensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) On 09/10/2019 at 01:35, skarroki said: I've come in and out of this thread 3 times now wondering why it keeps changing to the Luiz thread after I've clicked it https://statsbomb.com/2019/10/aston-villa-have-given-midfielder-marvelous-nakamba-a-thankless-job-and-hes-doing-it-admirably/ Possibly the worst and most misguided article I've read. It's like a click bait article, be dramatic, disregard facts and reality. (stats they've pulled up are nice though) Edited October 10, 2019 by Skruff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 If any player has done more than this guy [so far] to earn a guaranteed starting spot it's him, not there yet, but certainly on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: Did you know that Aston Villa once fielded the most black players in one game. It was against Everton when big Ron was in charge, which is quite ironic. Going off topic and I’ll probably get pelters for this but I still don’t think big Ron was a racist. He just messed up using racist terms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Hope Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Let's just put it all to bed now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Has been receiving a good bit of praise from the media in the last couple of days. Usually a DM is the role which gets least praise especially if not at a media friendly club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: Has been receiving a good bit of praise from the media in the last couple of days. Usually a DM is the role which gets least praise especially if not at a media friendly club Going off topic, but I think we’ve actually been missed from the premier league and because of that the media is far more friendly towards us atm. Ever since the Grealish punch incident and then aided by the Bielsa incident the media seem to praise us. Bbc who have notoriously never have a good word to say about us have been very favourable this year. Then you have sky praising our fan base and the presenters saying they love villa park Going back on topic, Marvellous has a very hard role with us being so open. However he seems to keep on improving which is only a good sign 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 He'll be being talked about in the same bracket as kante and gana by the end of the season. Of all our players people will be looking to poach marvelous might be near the top of the list 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 On 09/10/2019 at 18:01, New_Hope said: What the **** has the world come to?? So now only black men have huge members then? Jesus Christ!! It comes from white men calling black men animalistic and using that as a reason to lock them up. It's a racist trope by white men. It's wrong, and it needs to stop. I hope you understand why this is wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: He'll be being talked about in the same bracket as kante and gana by the end of the season. Of all our players people will be looking to poach marvelous might be near the top of the list You can build a nice midfield with him as a DM. If you have total confidence in that player makes everything work. Worth loads of money in the future and you could see him playing for anyone i suppose if he keeps it up. He will be top of a lot of lists in the future. Our owners have a point to prove in the Prem though and didn't get there to be pushed around by eg. The snake Levy, I doubt they care for such little grubs as him and his 5 Million for Jack and the like. They might laugh at him. He will be there in January but a bit desperate, 6.5 M for Jack + Danny Rose and 1M over 12 months is my prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 22/10/2019 at 01:10, mikeyp102 said: Going off topic, but I think we’ve actually been missed from the premier league and because of that the media is far more friendly towards us atm. Ever since the Grealish punch incident and then aided by the Bielsa incident the media seem to praise us. Bbc who have notoriously never have a good word to say about us have been very favourable this year. Then you have sky praising our fan base and the presenters saying they love villa park Going back on topic, Marvellous has a very hard role with us being so open. However he seems to keep on improving which is only a good sign Look the BBC had nothing good to say about us because we were poorly ran, played poorly and contributed next to nothing to the league for the last 2 or 3 seasons before we went down - I can't blame them for that. Now we're a completely different proposition and there are things that people can objectively see and like about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, lexicon said: Look the BBC had nothing good to say about us because we were poorly ran, played poorly and contributed next to nothing to the league for the last 2 or 3 seasons before we went down - I can't blame them for that. Now we're a completely different proposition and there are things that people can objectively see and like about us. Spot on. Us fans are backing the team in numbers, and positivity not seen since the height of the MON years, and in I think it's even better than that. Having a proper Villa fan as Captian and another as manager, and them both being class at their job and as people is the best thing to happen to the club since we won the European cup. Marvellous is name and the player. Exactly what this team needed. Love our midfield options. He reminds me of Makalele the way he just sits there and breaks everything up and looks for the quick ball forward to start the counter, but just as happy to play it safe and play the percentages. We will have a hard time keeping him if we don't show real ambition and results to match. Edited October 23, 2019 by Philosopher Had to say something on topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 23, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 23, 2019 I was one of those calling for Phillips at DM during the transfer window, but I have to say that we’ve done some great business with Marv. Cheaper and is not at all out of his depth in the Prem. Expecting him to be one of, if not the most important player in our team by the end of the season, especially given the system we play. Shame we had to play Luiz there exclusively at the start of the season as I still don’t think DM is his game, but I recognise that Marv had to get up to speed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, HKP90 said: I was one of those calling for Phillips at DM during the transfer window, but I have to say that we’ve done some great business with Marv. Cheaper and is not at all out of his depth in the Prem. Expecting him to be one of, if not the most important player in our team by the end of the season, especially given the system we play. Shame we had to play Luiz there exclusively at the start of the season as I still don’t think DM is his game, but I recognise that Marv had to get up to speed. Didn't Luiz start just one game in that position?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 hours ago, lexicon said: Look the BBC had nothing good to say about us because we were poorly ran, played poorly and contributed next to nothing to the league for the last 2 or 3 seasons before we went down - I can't blame them for that. Now we're a completely different proposition and there are things that people can objectively see and like about us. Us and Sunderland stunk the place up for years. Always last teams on MOTD and last get spoken about unless got hammered We have both been replaced by Southampton and potentially Everton if not careful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 love him.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 08:39, Skruff said: Possibly the worst and most misguided article I've read. It's like a click bait article, be dramatic, disregard facts and reality. (stats they've pulled up are nice though) This is the danger with a purely analytical view of football matches. xG is an interesting statistic but it feels incomplete in many ways. Manchester City regularly outperform their xG, because they're clinical and the kind of chances they create often can't be captured merely by on pitch position alone. It's a fun snapshot and something that should peak interest but you have to actually watch the games as well, which these lot clearly haven't been. As for Nakamba being 'awful' on the ball, maybe we're not asking him to be anything other than a basic bish? Again, eye test needed. He looks fine to me. When he is adventurous he is super adventurous, hence the 84% success rate. Which is fine for a player who we're not asking to be Xavi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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