Enda Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 13 hours ago, villa89 said: They are both championship standard at best. Hopefully both leave this summer. They’re both Championship at worst. “Championship at best” means League 1 standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I think both him and El Ghazi are both seriously lacking football intelligence for this level. I’d like some wingers that can do the basics like an accurate 5 yard pass or a clearance in the 94 minute to see a game out. The decision making from both of them is so frustrating at times. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 23 hours ago, Zatman said: I think he will go this summer, 1 assist all season is his contribution If he is starting games in 2022 for Villa then our recruitment has failed I'm absolutely shocked he has 0 goals, I looked it up after reading your post. He's missed a *lot* of sitters, but I thought he'd still have 3 or 4. 0 goals and 1 assist from 19 appearances is astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 19 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think both him and El Ghazi are both seriously lacking football intelligence for this level. I’d like some wingers that can do the basics like an accurate 5 yard pass or a clearance in the 94 minute to see a game out. The decision making from both of them is so frustrating at times. I don't think AEG does, but Trez is basically Gabby albeit with a better attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) I think he has actually regressed this season in a better team which is a shame. He works hard but does he have the quality. Still I will always remember the league cup semi final goal. Scences. Edited March 15, 2021 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 55 minutes ago, lexicon said: I don't think AEG does, but Trez is basically Gabby albeit with a better attitude. I think you’re being unfair on Gabby mate. He was class for a couple of years. Im not a fan of either Trez or AEG. But I guess at least the latter scores goals sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think you’re being unfair on Gabby mate. He was class for a couple of years. Im not a fan of either Trez or AEG. But I guess at least the latter scores goals sometimes. This season, yes. Last season, Trez scored nearly twice as many goals per minute (1 every 325, versus 1 every 515) as AEG. It’s not obvious which year is more representative. Trez has been crap this year but he’s also had COVID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) On 13/03/2021 at 23:20, Enda said: They’re both Championship at worst. “Championship at best” means League 1 standard. Not sure how you work that one out, but ' Championship at best ' would mean anywhere from the top of the Championship downwards. " Championship at worst ' would actually mean he is Championship quality, minimum, at his shittest, and anywhere upwards in better form. Edited March 15, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Not sure how you work that one out, but ' Championship at best ' would mean anywhere from the top of the Championship downwards. " Championship at worst ' would actually mean he is Championship quality, minimum, at his shittest, and anywhere upwards in better form. Last season, not long ago at all, Trez played an important role in a Premier League team. Kept them up, really. Scored six or seven goals from right wing. So, at his best, Trez is banging them in in the PL. Six months on, his form has dipped massively. He’d still absolutely get a game with a Millwall or a Luton, and be a very good option for a Watford or a Barnsley. So, at his worst, he’d still be a very solid Championship player. I know people use the phrase “Championship at best” as an intelligent-sounding insult, but it’s like Yanks saying “I could care less.” It means the opposite of what they think it does! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Enda said: Last season, not long ago at all, Trez played an important role in a Premier League team. Kept them up, really. Scored six or seven goals from right wing. So, at his best, Trez is banging them in in the PL. Six months on, his form has dipped massively. He’d still absolutely get a game with a Millwall or a Luton, and be a very good option for a Watford or a Barnsley. So, at his worst, he’d still be a very solid Championship player. I know people use the phrase “Championship at best” as an intelligent-sounding insult, but it’s like Yanks saying “I could care less.” It means the opposite of what they think it does! Ah ok, think I get what you were trying to say now mate. I actually only saw the comment in isolation, haven't really been following the thread. Edited March 16, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 23 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think you’re being unfair on Gabby mate. He was class for a couple of years. Im not a fan of either Trez or AEG. But I guess at least the latter scores goals sometimes. He was used and managed well by MON, for sure - he was excellent for us at that time, but we all saw what followed. He couldn't be arsed for years after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I don’t think Trez will be around to take us to the promise land. However, he was the whipping boy when the teams form was crap most of last season, was the hero come the last few games when we put together a good run of form, and people could not sing his praises high enough on how much he’d improved when we started the season like a house on fire. Trez’s form tends to be a product of the teams performance and right now Villa is not playing its best football. Our problems are definitely bigger than just Trez, although, in saying that, our problems are still a far cry from last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) On 16/03/2021 at 00:34, Enda said: Last season, not long ago at all, Trez played an important role in a Premier League team. Kept them up, really. Scored six or seven goals from right wing. So, at his best, Trez is banging them in in the PL. Six months on, his form has dipped massively. He’d still absolutely get a game with a Millwall or a Luton, and be a very good option for a Watford or a Barnsley. So, at his worst, he’d still be a very solid Championship player. I know people use the phrase “Championship at best” as an intelligent-sounding insult, but it’s like Yanks saying “I could care less.” It means the opposite of what they think it does! I'd argue that the reason we were being threatened with relegation is we were relying on Championship at best players like Trezeguet. Thanks for the goals, of course, but even when he was scoring he was a black hole for possession and had zero actual threat when he had the ball (yes, besides the time he kicked it in the net after someone passed to him, which is an important skill itself but a winger needs more than that). If we want to progress upgrading Trez is the first and most glaringly obvious thing to do. Edited March 18, 2021 by Rolta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rolta said: I'd argue that the reason we were being threatened with relegation is we were relying on Championship at best players like Trezeguet. Thanks for the goals, of course, but even when he was scoring he was a black hole for possession and had zero actual threat when he had the ball (yes, besides the time he kicked it in the net after someone passed to him, which is an important skill itself but a winger needs more than that). If we want to progress upgrading Trez is the first and most glaringly obvious thing to do. And then El Ghazi please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Playing with ten men 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 brilliant player if he never had to touch the ball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Would rather have Jordan Bowery on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Complete waste of time. Send him on his hols and **** him off in the summer. Play a kid. Play an old man. Play with 10 men. Give a competition winner a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Worst player in the league ... utter waste of space. Complete garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 So nearly good but, sadly for all concerned, he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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