Guest av1 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Wesley is currently the best striker at the club. I wouldn't sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: But among all the strikers in the league (at least outside of the top 6) he arguably has the most potential. He can be unstoppable against any defender, is quick, good build up play and great instinctive finishes. He just needs to learn how to use his strength in this league so he wins more free kicks and gives away fewer and how to head the ball and we will have a proper player on our hands. If he makes any improvement next season he is instantly worth 35 million and if he hits 10-15 goals and 5 assists he would be worth 50. I would heartily disagree with that assesment as he's so short of fundamentals. Game of opinions of course. If the club see it your way they should definitely keep him yes. He'll be playing in a much better side (hopefully) next year so perhaps better players around him can bring something out of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Fair enough, if that’s the case. Either way, I don’t rate him that highly but we’ll see what happens. Hopefully he comes back a man possessed. (Please don’t tell me we can’t sell Samatta either..) Sell anyone you want but avoid doing it at a loss! That’s why there are so many loans these days to kick the lower value sale down the road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Interesting. Two things. Wouldn't wages be discounted? Secondly. The bit in bold. Sure about that? Haha - valued by the club’s accountants, not by VillaTalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Do we know how our deal was structured, was it a flat £22m deal or where there clauses, installments and conditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Being pushed in the back and the ref not giving it because of his size. He still hasn't learnt how to fully use his size and strength to his advantage but when he does the only defender who I think could go toe to toe with him in terms of strength is VVD. Zouma for instance said mina is stronger than him and Zouma is a brick shit house and Wesley made him look like a child several times against Everton. Furthermore he will have had more space in the Belgian league so big touches would have gone unpunished. An easy fix but one that takes time to adapt to. All big ifs though. The kid is as soft as butter. Was embarrassing watching him get thrown around like a rag doll by alderwierald and sanchez opening day of the season and whinging and he reverted back to that a few times too before his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 57 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: But among all the strikers in the league (at least outside of the top 6) he arguably has the most potential. He can be unstoppable against any defender, is quick, good build up play and great instinctive finishes. He just needs to learn how to use his strength in this league so he wins more free kicks and gives away fewer and how to head the ball and we will have a proper player on our hands. If he makes any improvement next season he is instantly worth 35 million and if he hits 10-15 goals and 5 assists he would be worth 50. That might be the craziest thing I've read on here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: Haha - valued by the club’s accountants, not by VillaTalk. What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: What do you mean? You said was I sure he was valued at more than £10m. I said yes, according to accountants, even if not according to some fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 Quote He recently added: “I've been doing English classes since I got here, but it was hard to concentrate at first with all the games. "During quarantine, I was able to study more on the aspects I found most difficult, and I feel it's showing on the pitch." Excerpt from Douglas Luiz latest interview. Funny that, anyone feel Wesley deserves the same chance and/or might have been going through the same thing? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Excerpt from Douglas Luiz latest interview. Funny that, anyone feel Wesley deserves the same chance and/or might have been going through the same thing? Yep I do, looking forward to seeing him next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Excerpt from Douglas Luiz latest interview. Funny that, anyone feel Wesley deserves the same chance and/or might have been going through the same thing? I expect he was struggling with plenty yes. New language, country, club, team. None of it is easy. It showed on the pitch with Wes much more than it ever did with Luiz. Including when Doug was attempting a suicidal dummy outside his own area 5 mins into his home debut. Hope he comes back and takes it back to basics, that's where he needs to start off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Sell and put the money towards Edouard.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, sne said: Do we know how our deal was structured, was it a flat £22m deal or where there clauses, installments and conditions? There are always installments. It was another way Xia screwed us. He sold on the future installments of the players sold (at a loss) to keep us solvent. Also sold all future catering profits as well. That's why we were staring at oblivion. Money to pay out and already cashed the money to come in. Edited August 7, 2020 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Adam2003 said: You said was I sure he was valued at more than £10m. I said yes, according to accountants, even if not according to some fans. What accountants? Got a link for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robtaylor200 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 IMO opinion he is another Heskey, he has it all, can do it all , But doesn't do it. He doesn't get into the box or into a receiving position. Some one of a lesser price with more heart may do better. Sell him and take the loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 10 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Excerpt from Douglas Luiz latest interview. Funny that, anyone feel Wesley deserves the same chance and/or might have been going through the same thing? Wesley spoke English fluently. Watch his first interview with the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 11 hours ago, MotoMkali said: Why would you ever sell a physical freak. All it takes is for them to develop even a quarter of an average athletes technical ability and they will already be on par with them. Would Ronaldo even be half as good as Messi is if he wasnt the fastest player, strongest player and most athletic player 90% of the games he was in. No. Edit: To clarify you would sell them if they have proven over multiple seasons they don't have it in them to take the next step and develop with your club. You don't cut ties in the first season. Even worse, we would be cutting ties after half a season. I cant believe people would consider selling. 1. He scored goals, not loads but some (our other strikers do not). 2. He played half a year in a largely brand new team. 3. Hes young and still developing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Wesley spoke English fluently. Watch his first interview with the club He didn't speak English fluently. It was stilted and a preprepared interview done by a villa interviewer. He almost certainly was not fluent at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Wesley spoke English fluently. Watch his first interview with the club EDIT: The first interview was in Portuguese, but there's an interview with him after the Arsenal game in September when he speaks good English. Yeah I don't think the language is a problem for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYaN7pHrO7w&list=PLJdyosTCLVrL-cKyhbqrS1nhBdURjf5NP&index=17&t=0s He's our best striker for sure. We missed him—I imagine he might look better with some improvement with the other players in attack. Edited August 8, 2020 by Rolta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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