NurembergVillan Posted May 16, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 16, 2019 13 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Oh well, enjoy your mini pack of peanuts then Exactly... It was my best option for timings. The return flight with Delta would've only given me a 50-minute layover at JFK and I wasn't willing to risk it given they're not an especially timely airline. At least I'm up the front in the posh (normal for other airlines) seats... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 16, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, delboy54 said: Seen Villa a few times at Wembley, only ever seen them win once You're not allowed to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Don_Simon Posted May 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: You're not allowed to go. If seeing Villa win at wembley is a ticket criteria, we are not going to sell our allocation! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted May 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, supermon said: Derby are going to be an absolute different beast compared to the last two times we played them. I have said this myself but what are we basing this on exactly? When we played them in March they were well above us in the league. Admittedly they were on a poor run and had a couple of their main players out but we were also on a very poor run and missing McGinn and Axel. We didn't just beat them that day we absolutely annihilated them in the first half and then took our foot off the gas in the second half. When we played them in November they were well above us in the league, on a great run which had recently seen them beat Albion 4-1 and do Sheff Utd 2-1 and just the week before Sha 3-1. They had all their best players starting aside from Mount. We deservedly beat them 3-0 and it could easily of been more. I am all for us being cautious and not getting carried away but we shouldn't just disregard those results and make out Derby will be a completely different proposition to the side we faced in the regular season. Certainly that team we played at their place was, aside from Mount, as good as they have and we destroyed them. We have nothing to fear here. Just as Fulham swaggered into the final last season confident that if they played to close to their best they would win so should we this year. We will not get a better opportunity than this and the players have to know that it will be a huge wasted opportunity if they don't win. They can go in with the knowledge that we play to close to our best we have shown we are better than them. Psychologically that must be a boost for us and one we should embrace and feed off. Edited May 16, 2019 by markavfc40 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 If we play to the best of our ability and Derby play there best, we should be promoted. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 16, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 16, 2019 15 hours ago, AXD said: Any of the stats people know how many times a play-off final was between 5th and 6th and who is more likely to win? In the 14 years from 04/05 since this league has been known as the Championship, 5th has only played 6th in the final once, and 6th place won. That was actually season number one, with West Ham beating Preston. So, we'll have to make history to go up ... In terms of appearances and wins 3rd place - 11 apps & 7 wins 4th place - 7 apps & 2 wins 5th place - 7 apps & 3 wins 6th place - 3 apps & 2 wins Final combinations 3rd v 5th - 6 finals - 3 wins apiece 3rd v 4th - 5 finals - 3rd place has 4 wins 4th v 6th - 2 finals - 1 win apiece 5th v 6th - 1 final - 6th place won 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villan_of_oz Posted May 16, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) On 15/05/2019 at 14:24, MrDuck said: 3pm kick off on a Monday? Actually that means midnight here in Australia, which is not too bad. Yeah except if we win and it's 2am and there is absolutely no one or no way to celebrate except to go to bed get 4 hours sleep and go to work ... I'm taking the Tuesday off and if we win I'm getting wildly intoxicated on my own in the dark!! Edited May 16, 2019 by Villan_of_oz 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: If we play to the best of our ability and Derby play there best, we should be promoted. I agree, it is a big 'if' though. One of the good things about our recent run, and the Baggies games in fairness, is that we've found a way even when not at our best, which in turn means we don't seem to panic too much if we go behind early on. That kind of belief could prove vital if we are not quite at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Mantis said: Yeah, our Wembley record since the 2000 final has just been horrendous, aside from that Liverpool semi-final. Don't forget we got turned over by Chelsea 3-0 in 2010 as well. We just bottle it basically every time. Although as I said, we've always been the underdogs in these games. Liverpool 2015- my best day watching the Villa, Fulham 2018- probably my worst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Steer Elmo Mings Tuanzebe Taylor Whelan Grealish McGinn El Ghazi Abraham Kodjia Kalinic, Hause, Jedinak, Green, Adomah, Davis, Hourihane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Steer Elmo Mings Tuanzebe Taylor Whelan Grealish McGinn El Ghazi Abraham Kodjia Kalinic, Hause, Jedinak, Green, Adomah, Davis, Hourihane I agree with this, only I would swap Taylor for hause 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Things to be positive about: - Grealish and McGinn - Our attitude is spot on, focused and we want to win. - Deano knows what he wants - Abraham is due a good game - We have the experience from last season Negatives: - Derby are a good side. - They will cause us problems, especially Mount. He looks to be class. - We have been known not to turn up, by often, but even 30 minutes could see the game swing to Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 We will spank Derby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 16, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 16, 2019 So the odds for promotion are generally Aston Villa 8/13 (1.61) & Derby County 5/4 (2.25) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Dunno man, Leeds would have felt the exact same going into the playoff second leg, after all they beat Derby 3 times this year. They'll have Mason Mount this time which can be a huge factor, only have to go and see how much of a huge effect Grealish gave us when he came back from injury (I get we beat a team without him). Theres no denying how a clubs talisman has an effect on the team. The pressure is going to be on us as we're favourites and history tells us we usually bottle it. But on the flip side we have Dean Smith not Bruce and that alone gives me hope!! I just hope we keep our nerves on the day. Predict Grealish to score and then Adomah to come on as a sub to score his final goal, redemption for the penalty miss. 2-0 UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, Dick said: Things to be positive about: - Our attitude is spot on, focused and we want to win. This is the only question mark for me. We talk the talk pre match but recently we have looked like we have strolled into games with an attitude of "We've got this and don't need to try" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: Steer Elmo Mings Tuanzebe Taylor Whelan Grealish McGinn El Ghazi Abraham Kodjia Kalinic, Hause, Jedinak, Green, Adomah, Davis, Hourihane I'd go along with this, although I'd maybe save Kodjia for later in the game. I'm thinking get 38 year old Ashley Cole chasing Green up and down our right wing for about an hour then bring on Kodjia to take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I've been critical of our performances against the Boggies, and a few have spoken of how Derby played last night. But... They had nothing to lose. They were 2-0 down on aggregate, away - they had to throw caution to the wind and they ended up winning. That happens sometimes, but not often, and they have the talent in the team to make it work sometimes. And Leeds have the mouth but lack of spine to allow it to work. In the final, they have as much to lose as we have. If they go for it, we could stuff them and I doubt Lampard will go into the final so blasé. Smith has seem some of the players sort of freeze across the last 2 games, and has nearly 2 weeks to figure out how to deal with that and get them playing like they were a month ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 16, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, supermon said: Dunno man, Leeds would have felt the exact same going into the playoff second leg, after all they beat Derby 3 times this year. They'll have Mason Mount this time which can be a huge factor, only have to go and see how much of a huge effect Grealish gave us when he came back from injury (I get we beat a team without him). Theres no denying how a clubs talisman has an effect on the team. The pressure is going to be on us as we're favourites and history tells us we usually bottle it. But on the flip side we have Dean Smith not Bruce and that alone gives me hope!! I just hope we keep our nerves on the day. Predict Grealish to score and then Adomah to come on as a sub to score his final goal, redemption for the penalty miss. 2-0 UTV I'd be more worried had Leeds been outplayed by them, and I know Derby's play contributed towards what Leeds did BUT ... it was individual errors that cost Leeds. Fair play to Derby and all, but Leeds shot themselves in both feet. As stated elsewhere, if we can avoid the silly mistakes (no more Gerrard-esque slips Mr. Whelan) then Derby will have a much tougher time without being handed gifts. Having said all of that, I completely agree that we need to assume the worst and be ready for the absolute best Derby can throw at us. At least then we won't get a surprise on the day. Mount versus Abraham. Chelsea versus Chelsea for the prize of going up to play ... Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted May 16, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2019 4 hours ago, BOF said: In the 14 years from 04/05 since this league has been known as the Championship, 5th has only played 6th in the final once, and 6th place won. That was actually season number one, with West Ham beating Preston. So, we'll have to make history to go up ... In terms of appearances and wins 3rd place - 11 apps & 7 wins 4th place - 7 apps & 2 wins 5th place - 7 apps & 3 wins 6th place - 3 apps & 2 wins Final combinations 3rd v 5th - 6 finals - 3 wins apiece 3rd v 4th - 5 finals - 3rd place has 4 wins 4th v 6th - 2 finals - 1 win apiece 5th v 6th - 1 final - 6th place won Total bottle job for whoever finishes 3rd and not at least make the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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