Follyfoot Posted July 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I jumped to that conclusion, but it might be unfair. It's not the easiest task to keep an eye on what your kids are up to on the internet. His parents might be scum that raised him like this, or he could be a kid who's acting up despite having a decent upbringing. We just don't know. The worst often have had good upbringings and usually come as a major shock to their parents who do not understand what they have done wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I do find it slightly frustrating that the police tweeted Zaha back and had arrested someone more quickly than they bothered to send someone around to my parents when they were burgled. It's right it was followed up, but it does seem that people being mean on the internet gets a disproportionate response, especially if someone famous is involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Follyfoot said: The worst often have had good upbringings and usually come as a major shock to their parents who do not understand what they have done wrong Its often the case. There was the video of the guy bullying an autistic kid recently and the mum turned him on and was posting on social media how devestated she was. It obviously can be the parents but with free access to the Internet kids can get into all sorts of shitty rabbit holes being left to do their own thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Just realised I have been eating rice with 'racist' overtures for the last God knows how many years. Uncle Bens rice has a picture of a black man on the packet........ Getting silly now, don't you think..... Regards, VLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Graham t said: Just realised I have been eating rice with 'racist' overtures for the last God knows how many years. Uncle Bens rice has a picture of a black man on the packet........ Getting silly now, don't you think..... Regards, VLD. You still angry about the jam golly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seat68 Posted July 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Graham t said: Just realised I have been eating rice with 'racist' overtures for the last God knows how many years. Uncle Bens rice has a picture of a black man on the packet........ Getting silly now, don't you think..... Regards, VLD. Its a racial stereotype and the brand decided it was time to change. They weighed it up and thought its only triggered men that would be offended. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post limpid Posted July 12, 2020 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Graham t said: Just realised I have been eating rice with 'racist' overtures for the last God knows how many years. Uncle Bens rice has a picture of a black man on the packet........ Getting silly now, don't you think..... Regards, VLD. Yes, these posts are getting silly. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LondonLax Posted July 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, Graham t said: Just realised I have been eating rice with 'racist' overtures for the last God knows how many years. Uncle Bens rice has a picture of a black man on the packet........ Getting silly now, don't you think..... Regards, VLD. It’s not just about a picture of a black person. The name ‘Uncle Ben’ is a reference to a time in the US when black people were not considered worthy of being given the title of ‘Mr’ or ‘Mrs’ and were instead nicknamed ‘Uncle’ or ‘Aunty’. In the current day calling the guy on the front of the box ‘Uncle’ Ben instead of ‘Mr’ Ben is crass once you become aware of the history. I’m not surprised they are looking at a more up to date branding. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Not the same but similar when Birdseye got the makeover due to his noncest overtones and now gender aware becoming a woman Edited July 12, 2020 by Follyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, Graham t said: Just realised I have been eating rice with 'racist' overtures for the last God knows how many years. Uncle Bens rice has a picture of a black man on the packet........ Getting silly now, don't you think..... Regards, VLD. I very much doubt you even eat rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Not the same but similar when Birdseye got the makeover due to his noncest overtones and now gender aware becoming a woman Are you saying women can't be nonces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Xela said: Are you saying women can't be nonces? Not me Edited July 12, 2020 by Follyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 So pretty sure that the kid went to the school I work at. I remember him vaguely but never taught him. Horrendous messages but writing a kid off at 12 is going to do nothing but ensure that he's a horrible member of society when he becomes an adult. People are tweeting his secondary school to expel him. He needs to be dealt with by the police and educated properly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, DCJonah said: So pretty sure that the kid went to the school I work at. I remember him vaguely but never taught him. Horrendous messages but writing a kid off at 12 is going to do nothing but ensure that he's a horrible member of society when he becomes an adult. People are tweeting his secondary school to expel him. He needs to be dealt with by the police and educated properly. Yeh he’s f**ked up but he’s just a kid. He’ll hopefully understand how bad his actions were and learn from it. It’s probably not going to be safe for him until things calm down though. Edited July 12, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Lifetime ban from the club I'm not against as that might teach him a lesson. A 12 year old being publicly named and dragged on twitter makes me really uncomfortable. With someone that age I think it would be great to sit them down with some Villa players to help them understand but it's whether it's justified giving up the time to do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) This is similar to a situation in AFL here in Oz, there is a documentary about it too. Aboriginal player Adam Goodes pointed a fan being racist in the crowd during a match, it turned out to be a 13 year old girl. The fallout was mind blowing, all opposition crowds booed him for the rest of the season. Edited July 12, 2020 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: A 12 year old being publicly named and dragged on twitter makes me really uncomfortable. Agree to an extent but Zaha wasn’t to know it was a 12 year old and he was 100% right to publicise the awful messages he had been sent. The child in question will have been taught in primary school about online safety and digital footprint etc - and was old enough to know what he was doing by logging into Instagram (having set up an account despite being too young for the site) and sending such despicable messages to Zaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, chappy said: Agree to an extent but Zaha wasn’t to know it was a 12 year old and he was 100% right to publicise the awful messages he had been sent. The child in question will have been taught in primary school about online safety and digital footprint etc - and was old enough to know what he was doing by logging into Instagram (having set up an account despite being too young for the site) and sending such despicable messages to Zaha. Oh don't get me wrong, I have no issue with Zaha posting it publicly. I think he's quite right to show people what some people face on a daily basis. The kid obviously **** up badly. My issue is with people thinking they're taking a morally superior position by laying into a child on social media. I don't care what anyone says, none of us grew up in the world these kids have where it's so easy to post something online and it **** you up forever. At 12 I would obviously have known what he did was wrong and wouldn't have done it myself, however I wont pretend for a second I wouldn't have said some pretty horrible shit several years past his age thinking it's funny. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted July 12, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Graham t said: Just realised I have been eating rice with 'racist' overtures for the last God knows how many years. Uncle Bens rice has a picture of a black man on the packet........ Getting silly now, don't you think..... Regards, VLD. Remember when I said the right thing to do in this kind of situation is to try and educate yourself as to why something might be offensive, or inappropriate, or just of it's time, and then understand why a decision like this has been made; rather than decide immediately that they're wrong and dismiss it as silly? Yeah. You should give it a try some time. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: So pretty sure that the kid went to the school I work at. I remember him vaguely but never taught him. Horrendous messages but writing a kid off at 12 is going to do nothing but ensure that he's a horrible member of society when he becomes an adult. People are tweeting his secondary school to expel him. He needs to be dealt with by the police and educated properly. If I'd been sending racist abuse and threats to anyone, let alone a prominent celebrity while I was at school, I'd have been expelled immediately and I imagine most schools are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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