bobzy Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: He was one of our better players tonight. Not sure it was even a free kick. It wasn’t a free kick, but it was **** appalling defending that followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 4 hours ago, villa4europe said: He's behind the whole time Its fairly basic defending one in front one behind, if you look at how we shape up before the ball comes in we have a wall, then buendia to stop the player on the edge of the box, then young, then Watkins, forest player, Ramsey, then Dennis and then mings behind him and its all tight in the middle The problem is the first forest player moves front post and Watkins isn't goal side of him so Ramsey gets drawn in to cover which then leaves Dennis wide open, if Watkins was in the right position Ramsey should stay in front of Dennis and it hits him in the chest, from there the quality of the ball in makes it easy, mings can't even challenge for a header let alone win it Watkins and Ramsey end up in no man's land which is why he got such an easy header Yes it was odd to see as Watkins defends the front post, Mings takes the center for floated balls and Konsa at back post for the peel off. This is almost always their set piece set up. Rarely is there ever a single player to blame during a set piece. Miscommunication all around - which is probably what MacPhee was explaining to Gerrard since Gerrard hasn’t a clue how to set it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 hours ago, bobzy said: It wasn’t a free kick, but it was **** appalling defending that followed. From those in front of Dennis. Mings was left high and dry. @villa4europe explained it well. It looked bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: From those in front of Dennis. Mings was left high and dry. @villa4europe explained it well. It looked bizarre. Looked to me like Watkins went to sleep and lost his man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 5 hours ago, villa4europe said: He's behind the whole time Its fairly basic defending one in front one behind, if you look at how we shape up before the ball comes in we have a wall, then buendia to stop the player on the edge of the box, then young, then Watkins, forest player, Ramsey, then Dennis and then mings behind him and its all tight in the middle The problem is the first forest player moves front post and Watkins isn't goal side of him so Ramsey gets drawn in to cover which then leaves Dennis wide open, if Watkins was in the right position Ramsey should stay in front of Dennis and it hits him in the chest, from there the quality of the ball in makes it easy, mings can't even challenge for a header let alone win it Watkins and Ramsey end up in no man's land which is why he got such an easy header I wish I could print this out and nail it to the forehead of every moron pundit jumping on the "Mings is shit" bandwagon by blaming him for the goal. He was one of our better players today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 7 hours ago, VillaAlex said: Our best defender more like. Not for me. Once again, an error that was costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: Not for me. Once again, an error that was costly. What in @villa4europe's post do you disagree with? Because I thought it was spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Looked to me like Watkins went to sleep and lost his man. Yeah if you were going to pin it on one player you'd either go mings for the daft foul or Watkins for the defending Him being the wrong side causes everything else to fall apart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Vancvillan said: I wish I could print this out and nail it to the forehead of every moron pundit jumping on the "Mings is shit" bandwagon by blaming him for the goal. He was one of our better players today. 100%. He made some very good passes and set up nearly every half decent attack we had. The pundits can say what they like, he’s the first name on the team sheet for me at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MotoMkali Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: Not for me. Once again, an error that was costly. Not a surprise you think that. CB gets isolated on the wing, striker knocks the ball past. You have to commit the foul there. It's so hard to turn around and beat a quick striker. And there won't be enough cover if he's beaten. And then the actual goal is because Watkins switches off and loses his man so ramsey has to run out of position which means instead of just standing and intercepting the ball he's in no man's land and Dennis gets a free header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Mings got the ball. Never a duckin foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Mings got the ball. Never a duckin foul. The foul was the shove. It should be a foul. I hate it when the defender barely gets the ball and it would still be up for grabs if the defender hadn't cleared out the attacker. For me everyone of those should be fouls. Winning the ball should be about actually getting possession. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: The foul was the shove. It should be a foul. I hate it when the defender barely gets the ball and it would still be up for grabs if the defender hadn't cleared out the attacker. For me everyone of those should be fouls. Winning the ball should be about actually getting possession. I’d concede it was a foul but Dennis was also ‘fouling’ in that instance . Mings got the ball so imo play on. If Dennis wasn’t fouling Mings too then yes id agree it’s a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Was funny when McGinn got hooked. He straight away went to pass the armband to Mings who then had to pass it over to Young. We all know who the real captain is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: We don’t deserve Ty. What a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted October 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Milfner said: Was funny when McGinn got hooked. He straight away went to pass the armband to Mings who then had to pass it over to Young. We all know who the real captain is. i thought emi was vice captain...young is club captain. mcginn still got it wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Must be part of the Gerrard out crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Get rid at the end of the season. Just too error prone even if he does do other things well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 22:28, Indigo said: See you at Christmas, friend. Not sure what this was supposed to mean but I don't think it's come off quite the way you wanted it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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