VillaAlex Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 It's difficult, it's harsh as he got us here. He had a massive job to overhaul the squad, but the most concerning thing is the lack of identity. If you're a Norwich fan you can see a style of play, they leak goals left right and centre but they have an attacking identity. We're slow, zero width, and zero invention outside of Grealish. Regardless of the shite we have signed a good manager implements that. Even last season we were largely running through Jack and having better players than most. We vastly overachieved under Bruce until Smith came in that year. I like the Smith, I want him to succeed but I can't be confident he will turn it round again. The mind leans more towards last year's run being a one off purple patch for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: Head of recruitment will get sacked, Purslow probably too being honest and they can’t complain. That leaves Dean and I can see the owners wanting a new clean start as this project has completely failed. Purslow will depend on FFP If he's made us financially sound even after relegation then sacking him is harsh, the **** up could always be worse, if the books are a mess next season then yep chuck him on the pile too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 He’s got the job all villa fans would love and this is the shit he is giving us, has to go before the start of next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, R.Bear said: The problem we have is that if he stays on and gets us promoted again, we will have him as a PL manager in a years time. There is nothing to suggest it will be any different. So based on that logic, he has to be sacked as soon as the season is over. There is Managers are just like players, they can get better (and worse) with age, they can gain experience, they can develop Konsa at the moment isn't proper PL quality, we go down he plays 40 games comes back up there's every danger that he might be at the 2nd bite But a manager can't go through that same learning curve? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, R.Bear said: The problem we have is that if he stays on and gets us promoted again, we will have him as a PL manager in a years time. There is nothing to suggest it will be any different. So based on that logic, he has to be sacked as soon as the season is over. I agree. We know he's not good enough so why bother keeping him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, R.Bear said: The problem we have is that if he stays on and gets us promoted again, we will have him as a PL manager in a years time. There is nothing to suggest it will be any different. So based on that logic, he has to be sacked as soon as the season is over. He won't get us up. We had by far the best team in the Championship last season. He obviously needs to work with a Man City squad to get results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Enda said: Yeah no chance we stay up playing like this, but a win on Sunday and we're only a point behind 16th. Not if Watford win we aren’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: There is Managers are just like players, they can get better (and worse) with age, they can gain experience, they can develop That may be true but my concern is that we have got progressively worse this season. If we started shite and got better it would be a different story. The fact we're in freefall in terms of results and he has done nothing to stem the tide means IMO he doesnt deserve another chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Purslow won’t leave he is a minority investor at the club. The project has failed pretty much. Purslow will need to come up with a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, rbcuk said: He’s got the job all villa fans would love and this is the shit he is giving us, has to go before the start of next season Should have gone last September, when it was obvious he was a clueless amateur, clearly out of his depth, VLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, R.Bear said: That may be true but my concern is that we have got progressively worse this season. If we started shite and got better it would be a different story. The fact we're in freefall in terms of results and he has done nothing to stem the tide means IMO he doesnt deserve another chance. Depends on the plan We need to limit turnover, if that means Smith goes and the players stay then so be it but a new manager and staff + 10 players would **** us again Quickest route to return is Smith + around 5 new young High potential players imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Sean Dyche is a good example of not doing this. Alex Neil and Neil Warnock meanwhile are good examples of doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Stick with him. Change up the squad. Again? A full season in the prem. and he still doesn't know his best side......embarrassing... VLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, villa4europe said: There is Managers are just like players, they can get better (and worse) with age, they can gain experience, they can develop Konsa at the moment isn't proper PL quality, we go down he plays 40 games comes back up there's every danger that he might be at the 2nd bite But a manager can't go through that same learning curve? Why not? I think you would get very good odds on either Konsa or Smith cutting it in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: You see to me that says whoever has been in charge over recruitment has to go. We also spent £127 million on utter shite like Wes, Trez and what not. Doesn't matter what manager you got when you recruit hamsters for a dog race. No question suso must be shown the door along with smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Graham t said: Should have gone last September, when it was obvious he was a clueless amateur, clearly out of his depth, VLD. Exactly I said at Xmas after that Southampton home game he should have gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Biggest gamble is getting rid of him and ripping the whole thing apart IMO. Keep most of the squad and learn from our recruitment mistakes. If we don't look like challenging for promotion by Xmas then he goes. If he gets us back up then a serious think about if he is the right man at that point. Right now, I think hes our best chance at bouncing straight back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Expecting club statement by tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Getting a new manager in won't fix this pile of shite Suso bought. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Laughable Chimp said: Alex Neil and Neil Warnock meanwhile are good examples of doing this. Yep. Almost like there's no way to predict the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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