Villa94 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Do we keep the same people that are failing the club then? All I see him doing is talking the talk so far, I've yet to see anything other than this from him. What do you want to see from him then ? ......20 goals a season ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: Or got us to a cup final. A cup final we lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Villa94 said: What do you want to see from him then ? Not a repeat of the Liverpool fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Not a repeat of the Liverpool fiasco. Pretty sure Purslow instigated Hicks and Gillett leaving the club and these new owners took over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Pretty sure Purslow instigated Hicks and Gillett leaving the club and these new owners took over There's a good book I am going to clamp eyes on which is based on the time of their ownership at the club and Purslow being at Liverpool at the time. Looks a very interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Seems to know his way around football which gives him an edge over previous incumbents. The bit that worries me is recruitment - Susso, Smith (easy pick) - did he also appoint Roy Hodgson at Liverpool ? IMO we need an inspirational managerial appointment - something like Graham Taylor all those years ago - can he deliver that ? really not sure. I don't think he is the firing line as much as Susso and Smith right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I hope he can take the rough with the smooth as it is going to be very rough for Villa for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Pretty sure Purslow instigated Hicks and Gillett leaving the club and these new owners took over 46 minutes ago, hippo said: Seems to know his way around football which gives him an edge over previous incumbents. The bit that worries me is recruitment - Susso, Smith (easy pick) - did he also appoint Roy Hodgson at Liverpool ? IMO we need an inspirational managerial appointment - something like Graham Taylor all those years ago - can he deliver that ? really not sure. I don't think he is the firing line as much as Susso and Smith right now. Whilst he is regarded as having played a ‘crucial role’in managing the takeover from unpopular owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett, his stay was not without incident. Purslow is credited with averting the financial collapse of the club, against a backdrop of strained supporter relations. During his stewardship, Liverpool secured their then largest ever commercial deal, an £80 million tie up with Standard Chartered. This deal was so large it actually had to be defended by the bank at a conference held in London. It wasn’t all smooth sailing. Rafa Benitez was happy to go on the record in 2010, attributing Purslow directly for his departure from Anfield and questioning the financial position of the club. This period coincided with Liverpool finishing outside the top 6, failing to qualify for the Champions League and in a surprise move, appointing Roy Hodgson as manager. It’s important to put this in the context that the outgoing regime at the time saddled Liverpool with significant debt that the club found challenging to service just the interest on (£45million in 2010). This had the knock on effect that Purslow restricted both the funds and authorisation for any transfer dealings. In a strikingly similar situation to that of Villa in that June, Liverpool were at real risk of being placed into administration by RBS. The fact that this was averted can in part be attributed to Purslow’s efforts at the time. Purslow also struggled to maintain positive relations with Liverpool supporters with a number of public actions or statements that appeared to put him at odds with fans. This included attempts to revive plans for a shared stadium with Everton, which Liverpool officials privately ‘scoffed at’ as an attempt to ‘claim the limelight he craves’. Meow. Separately, he infamously referred to the clubs ‘Spirit of Shankly group as ‘Sons of Strikers’, regarding them as ‘militant’ or ‘troublemakers’. Despite this fractious relationship, Villa’s new CEO is understood to remain a Liverpool fan (third generation) and a long time season ticket holder. On Liverpool and the job he was employed to do he’s quoted as saying: “To be the person who had to keep the club alive long enough to get it sold but on the other hand having no money to spend, that tightrope was the hardest part of the job. Fans, naturally, want to see their team being highly competitive and to spend lots of money on transfers and wages. It was not an option for me to speak publicly about what a financial mess it was when I arrived; my job was to fix the mess and not whinge about it. With some people not appreciating that situation until the very end then there were naturally pressures put on me and questions asked.” Time will tell if he is the right man for Villa. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The decision not to bring in any loans still baffles me, we really needed some experience heads in the team. What a roll of the dice it was to buy almost a whole team of no premier League experience and expect to compete. Remember that interview with him and Dean...what a load of bollocks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Just now, supermon said: The decision not to bring in any loans still baffles me, we really needed some experience heads in the team. What a roll of the dice it was to buy almost a whole team of no premier League experience and expect to compete. Remember that interview with him and Dean...what a load of bollocks No loans you say? Imagine how different things could have been. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) There was no policy against loans, just loans without an option to buy, relying on those kind of deals are in part what got us in the mess of having to buy an whole new squad upon promotion which has in part lead to the mess we're in now, so can see where the club were coming from in not wanting to continue with them. Edited July 7, 2020 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 That no loan stuff was moronic. A newly promoted side needs all the extra help they can find. It annoyed that we stuck our noses up against that at the time and I still think it was ridiculous. So what if we develop a player for another side. Perhaps then we wouldn't have had to rely on Trez and El Ghazi on the flanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 He talks a good game, but what’s come of it, looks like relegation back to the championship. All the feel good factor after the playoff final, 30k season tickets for this season and coming on sky before the season saying we won’t go down, I hope the owners ask him some serious questions of how this season has unfolded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Let's be teal though. We didn't end up relegated because of a lack of loans, we got relegated because we bought too many poor players, or/and too many players that needed to settle/develop at the same time. I still think we were 3 good players from comfortably avoiding relegation, a good DM, and 2 good wingers, that was our critical error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Let's be teal though. We didn't end up relegated because of a lack of loans, we got relegated because we bought too many poor players, or/and too many players that needed to settle/develop at the same time. I still think we were 3 good players from comfortably avoiding relegation, a good DM, and 2 good wingers, that was our critical error. 3 good players away is actually quite a distance away. Probably say £20m per player on average. Defensively we have looked poor even with Heaton, Mings, Target . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 11 hours ago, hippo said: Seems to know his way around football which gives him an edge over previous incumbents. The bit that worries me is recruitment - Susso, Smith (easy pick) - did he also appoint Roy Hodgson at Liverpool ? IMO we need an inspirational managerial appointment - something like Graham Taylor all those years ago - can he deliver that ? really not sure. I don't think he is the firing line as much as Susso and Smith right now. Didn't Taylor finish 17th/18th or something after promotion? The funny thing about that is that a lot of people on here would have wanted him sacked at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Didn't Taylor finish 17th/18th or something after promotion? The funny thing about that is that a lot of people on here would have wanted him sacked at that point. Yes he did. He also said should we get relegated he would consider resigning. It's fine margins at this level. Taylor got us promoted by the narrowest of margins and kept us up with not much to spare. That's the difference between and a top manager and a run of the mill one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, hippo said: Yes he did. He also said should we get relegated he would consider resigning. It's fine margins at this level. Taylor got us promoted by the narrowest of margins and kept us up with not much to spare. That's the difference between and a top manager and a run of the mill one. So if Smith does keep us up that makes him a top manager? strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Just now, Zatman said: So if Smith does keep us up that makes him a top manager? strange No - it means he gets another shot at managing at the top level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) I don't think the owners will mess about, it will be bang - bang - bang ....next Edited July 8, 2020 by CosmicVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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