Johnnyp Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 49 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: What’s Garde doing these days? Did he ever return to management or did his experience with us put him off for life? Managing montreal impact i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vreitti Posted April 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: think this is where the fanbase will disagree. unless someone can prove me wrong, i dont believe bruces official minimum target this season was revealed to be automatic promotion. any interviews i saw pre season was just simply 'promotion'. the debate here is around bruce should be sacked even if we get promoted via playoffs...which i just think is just bonkers, because he has achieved his target. i dont call getting promoted via playoffs 'scraping by' as the end result is the same. He should be let go irrespective of how we finish the season. I'll certainly applaud him, should we get promoted, and he'll have earned his corn, no questions. However, the simple fact is Bruce just isn't a progressive enough manager, for where we want to be, imho. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincenzo Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 hours ago, vreitti said: He should be let go irrespective of how we finish the season. I'll certainly applaud him, should we get promoted, and he'll have earned his corn, no questions. However, the simple fact is Bruce just isn't a progressive enough manager, for where we want to be, imho. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxahunter Posted April 23, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2018 Lets take Jokanovic, after we beat Fulham in the Play-off final 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 21 hours ago, Xela said: We wanted the manager out when we were finishing 6th in the Premier League! Exactly - this is Aston Villa! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 My personal opinion is this. I can't say I've ever really liked a Villa gaffer since Brian Little / John Gregory - until Brucie came across I don't know what it is, I just think he suits Villa, I like him and think he will get us back up and stabilise us in the prem. Whether that is this season we will see. I genuinely think this season has been a freak with 4 teams all bombing on......... But regardless of the outcome I want him to stay at Villa for the foreseeable..................... There is some big contracts coming to an end this season, so may have a bit o wiggle room round FFP and have another bash at it next season if we dont go up - that is all we can do..... I genuinley dont think the club will get rid of him if we dont promote - i think if he goes, he will stand down - but I dont think he will or the club will want him too - as lets face it - well lose his backroom staff and will have to rebuild "again" If we stay down we will inevitably lose a few players - maybe the loan players wont be back but id be confident we would have a squad with Elmo, Taylor, Chester, Hourihane, Whelan, Jedi, Lansbury, Grealish, Hogan, Adomah, Bree, Bjanrason, Davis.......... Ive got a sneaky feeling JT will stick around regardless............... if thats the case, itll be a new No1 if we cant afford SJ, a new player wide right............ and if we can keep a fully fit kodjia and afford Grabban i think well be strong again........... we may even look to reintegrate Gil, DeLaet, Elphick, Gollini if we cant find buyers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 43 minutes ago, Adbo9 said: My personal opinion is this. I can't say I've ever really liked a Villa gaffer since Brian Little / John Gregory - until Brucie came across I don't know what it is, I just think he suits Villa, I like him and think he will get us back up and stabilise us in the prem. Whether that is this season we will see. I genuinely think this season has been a freak with 4 teams all bombing on......... But regardless of the outcome I want him to stay at Villa for the foreseeable..................... There is some big contracts coming to an end this season, so may have a bit o wiggle room round FFP and have another bash at it next season if we dont go up - that is all we can do..... I genuinley dont think the club will get rid of him if we dont promote - i think if he goes, he will stand down - but I dont think he will or the club will want him too - as lets face it - well lose his backroom staff and will have to rebuild "again" If we stay down we will inevitably lose a few players - maybe the loan players wont be back but id be confident we would have a squad with Elmo, Taylor, Chester, Hourihane, Whelan, Jedi, Lansbury, Grealish, Hogan, Adomah, Bree, Bjanrason, Davis.......... Ive got a sneaky feeling JT will stick around regardless............... if thats the case, itll be a new No1 if we cant afford SJ, a new player wide right............ and if we can keep a fully fit kodjia and afford Grabban i think well be strong again........... we may even look to reintegrate Gil, DeLaet, Elphick, Gollini if we cant find buyers Can you explain what it is you like about him? Or is it just a feeling? The football is hit and miss. The performances go up and down massively. Team selections are barmy at times as are substitutions. He seems a nice bloke but I don’t think he’s got a big club mentality in him to manage us. He’s used the same old plan for us but we are a different beast and he has gotten a lot of leeway as promotion is still attainable but if we go up what will he give us. If this is as good as he gets and I think it is he has to go. Get Jokanovic and ask him to bring Sessegnon and Cairney with him. Might be cheaper yo-yo just buy Fulham though!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Taxahunter said: Lets take Jokanovic, after we beat Fulham in the Play-off final In before the illogical "But if we beat them in the playoff final, surely that means Bruce is the better manager" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KHV Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2018 I think Bruce will be here next season regardless of whether we go up or not 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I think he will be here next season and part of me thinks that continuity will be best for the club and the players who are doing well. That said, I would love someone to come in and bed in our exciting youth prospects whilst forging a brand of football that is entertaining, forward thinking and lays the foundation for progression not just out of this league but upwards within the Premier League. That man for me is not Bruce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I've always thought the plan for him was promotion by any means, then a handshake and big brown envelope as he waves and slips off to America for a last pay day in the sun. Still think that'll happen whether its this season or the next. He was never going to manage us in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 15 hours ago, KHV said: I think Bruce will be here next season regardless of whether we go up or not Me too, and to be honest I'm more than happy with that for now. 1 hour ago, villan_007 said: I've always thought the plan for him was promotion by any means, then a handshake and big brown envelope as he waves and slips off to America for a last pay day in the sun. Still think that'll happen whether its this season or the next. He was never going to manage us in the prem. I don't recall him ever saying anything that would lead you to suspect this? Also, he's 57 not 77, he doesn't need 'a last pay day in the sun'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Whether like it or not, he will be in charge if we go up. Madness to let him go then unless we had replacement lined up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted April 24, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2018 Come on Arsene Wenger. I’d like to see how he handles managing a big club like us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 16 hours ago, KHV said: I think Bruce will be here next season regardless of whether we go up or not I agree, I can't see him being sacked this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: I don't recall him ever saying anything that would lead you to suspect this? Also, he's 57 not 77, he doesn't need 'a last pay day in the sun'. Well I said "I've always thought" as in IMO. He isn't going to come out and say that is he obviously. I've always thought the doctor had his own plans for life in the prem. Bruce is a cog in the wheel to get there and would receive a nice brown envelope and be on his merry way when that is achieved. His age is irrelevant. He's been around the block in the UK, probably fancies a crack else where before knocking it on the head before golf and TV pundit life. I'm not privy to his finances so not sure where he does or doesn't need it. It was just what I think is most likely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 24, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2018 17 hours ago, KHV said: I think Bruce will be here next season regardless of whether we go up or not Yep I agree. Not quite sure how I feel about that. It all depends on how much of the squad we can keep if we don't go up. If we do go up I'm confident he can keep us in the Premier League for a season. It would then depend on his performance if he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 24, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 hours ago, villan_007 said: I've always thought the plan for him was promotion by any means, then a handshake and big brown envelope as he waves and slips off to America for a last pay day in the sun. Still think that'll happen whether its this season or the next. He was never going to manage us in the prem. I couldn't disagree more. Regardless of our opinion of the guy, I imagine Steve Bruce sees this as his biggest opportunity in management yet. He's never managed a club of our size, and assuming Xia is the real deal, won't have had a budget of this size either. I don't think Steve Bruce has any intention of leaving the club if we get promoted. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I couldn't disagree more. Regardless of our opinion of the guy, I imagine Steve Bruce sees this as his biggest opportunity in management yet. He's never managed a club of our size, and assuming Xia is the real deal, won't have had a budget of this size either. I don't think Steve Bruce has any intention of leaving the club if we get promoted. exactly, there's literately nothing I can think of that would be an incentive for him to not want to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I cant think of any previous manager I have been so fickle about. One month I see all the good things he brings and the next I want him out. As of right now, I think we should keep him next season if we go up or not*. * subect to change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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